I think I'm making my way to #7 on Dawkins scale.

It's just, if there WAS a god, I think it's reasonable to assume we'd fucking notice, you know?

You'd think so. He either doesn't exist, isn't interested or is the #1 hide and seek champ of all time.

Or maybe he really does work in mysterious ways and we are all going to hell!
(God, if you're listening, I never really meant any of what I said. I was good before I met Min)

Maybe we've all been getting it wrong from the start. Maybe god is real and in fact a Grade A Arse-hat and he knows it but couldn't give two shiny shits what anyone else thinks about him. He actively enjoys the wars and misery and plagues and famine and all the other shit his little creations get up to because it amuses him. We're his little experiment - he planet the seed and now he's just sitting back, watching his garden grow.

Nah.....maybe not.

(June 8, 2014 at 12:34 pm)Mudhammam Wrote: Why are they all so fucking illogical and idiotic? Moreover, why are so many people dumb enough to be "persuaded" by them?

If all books false, then there is no True Book. Why is it the True?! If something is True, it necessarily exists in the real world.
Same holds for True God, True Church, True Religion, True mother, True father,....

(June 8, 2014 at 12:34 pm)Mudhammam Wrote: Why are they all so fucking illogical and idiotic? Moreover, why are so many people dumb enough to be "persuaded" by them?

they are old. back then logic was done with a club. people didn't change much on the inside. they may have better tools, but they are still used in a repressive manner

This thread contains considerably less John de Lancie than I had anticipated.

(June 23, 2015 at 12:13 pm)robvalue Wrote: You'd think so. He either doesn't exist, isn't interested or is the #1 hide and seek champ of all time.

You're more right than you know.

AMUN/AMEN : unbegotten preexistence
double-concealed in transcendence and immanence
and the unity of Ancient Egyptian theologies

(October 23, 2016 at 4:59 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(June 23, 2015 at 12:13 pm)robvalue Wrote: You'd think so. He either doesn't exist, isn't interested or is the #1 hide and seek champ of all time.

You're more right than you know.

AMUN/AMEN : unbegotten preexistence
double-concealed in transcendence and immanence
and the unity of Ancient Egyptian theologies

Quote:In current usage, the term "amen" has become little more than a ritualized conclusion to prayers. Yet the Hebrew and Greek words for amen appear hundreds of times in the Bible and have several uses. Amen is a transliteration of the Hebrew word amen [em'a]. The verb form occurs more than one hundred times in the Old Testament and means to take care, to be faithful, reliable or established, or to believe someone or something. The idea of something that is faithful, reliable, or believable seems to lie behind the use of amen as an exclamation on twenty-five solemn occasions in the Old Testament. Israel said "amen" to join in the praises of God ( 1 Chron 16:36 ; Neh 8:6 ; and at the end of each of the first four books of Psalms, 41:13 ; 72:19 ; 89:52 ; 106:48 ).

Amen is never used solely to confirm a blessing in the Old Testament, but Israel did accept the curse of God on sin by it (twelve times in Deut. 27, and in Neh 5:13 ), and once Jeremiah affirms God's statements of the blessings and the curses of the covenant with an amen ( Jer 11:5 ). It can also confirm a statement made by people ( Num 5:22 ; 1 Kings 1:36 ; Neh 5:13 ). These kinds of uses lie behind the popular, basically correct, dictum that amen means "So be it."

Amen has other uses. Jeremiah mocks the words of a false prophet with an amen (28:6). Because God is trustworthy, Isaiah can call him "the God of amen, " in whose name his servants should invoke blessings and take oaths ( Isa 65:16 ; see also Rev 3:14 ). But Jesus' use of amen is the most striking innovation.

Jesus introduces his teaching by saying amen lego humin [ajmhvnlevgwuJmi'n], that is, "truly I say to you, " on nearly seventy occasions in the Gospels (thirty times in Matthew, thirteen in Mark, six in Luke, and twenty in John, where the amen is always doubled). Where the prophets often said, "Thus says the Lord, " Jesus often says, "Amen I say to you." . . . .

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/amen/

I call bullshit.

(March 31, 2016 at 10:19 am)TheFletcherMemorial Wrote: Maybe we've all been getting it wrong from the start. Maybe god is real and in fact a Grade A Arse-hat and he knows it but couldn't give two shiny shits what anyone else thinks about him. He actively enjoys the wars and misery and plagues and famine and all the other shit his little creations get up to because it amuses him. We're his little experiment - he planet the seed and now he's just sitting back, watching his garden grow.
Nah.....maybe not.

You are creating a lot of guessing and no evidence.  

How do you know that God enjoy our suffering?

If your adult son would cause trouble to himself or to other with his free will and then suffer would you enjoy that?

Why don't you think before you come up with this garbage?