(May 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 3:33 pm)Drich Wrote: Two things.. One not my method Christ Himself puts it out there.

If you say so.  Looks like christ was wrong then, huh?

Quote:Two it did work, but not as expected so people quit and did not "Knock" past the point of abandoning their old faith.

The tool's explanation for why the magic doesn't work.  Again, people have tried your method, it didn't work.  Perhaps something else is required.  If your overall claim is true (god is real, jesus is real, you had a genuine experience of the divine), that simply -has- to be the case.  You believe that you had this very real experience  because you "A/S/K"ed...but this is simple misattribution.  That would be the exceedingly generous explanation for this problem.  I do not grant the exceedingly generous explanation, in your case.

Again, no they have not Tried the method Christ ascribes in Luke 11.

The process starts with the abandonment of your previous beliefs. God destroys your bad 'faith' your broken understanding of Him. and gives you the opportunity to start over IF and only if you can push past the idea that your first effort (what God took away/showed you was false which causes your dissbelief/atheism) counts for anything. If you truly seek the truth then one automatically never stops questioning Never stops seeking. They Knock until they found what it is they are looking for.

That is why You stopped. You found a convincing reason Not to believe. That is what you wanted. That is the 'bias' you choose to view the world. Which again is fine, but don't pretend for a minute that your excuse for your current unbelief is the complete truth.

You may have found that your version of God did not exist, fine I concur as I read how shocked and appalled you are when you judge the contrast between what you believed and How God describes Himself. But that's where you stop.
You see a disparraging difference between your version of the Christian God and what I have told you the bible actually says, and you still lazily dismiss them as the same deity. Pretending your initial dismissal counts because your version and the bible's version share the same name and title.

I can promise you, that you nor anyone else here has A/S/K after the God of the bible. Agaiin your efforts could only center around what you thought you knew of God.

The God of the bible answered your prayer and obliterated your faith in your false deity, and gave you an oppertunity to seek Him out. You didn't. You stopped as you found what you were truly looking for. Not God but freedom to indulge in your sin.

So then at what point are you claiming to have followed A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11? when you petitioned a version of a god that you and I both know does not exist?

reset the logic and try again. If I can poke holes through your 'sound' reasoning, then do you really think you will skirt accountability "because we all tried 'your' method and nothing happened?"

Quote:I can promise you, that you nor anyone else here has A/S/K after the God of the bible.

And there's your daily does of "Drich knows your own mind and life experiences better than you do."

(May 16, 2016 at 3:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Drich Wrote: got a mirror?

No, if you want to find God look in the mirror yourself. The only place god/s/God/deities exist are in the minds of the people who wish they were true. They are a reflection of your own desires, insecurities, fears and narcissism. We have long given up on the idea of Santa for adults and being threatened with coal in our stockings. You've god a pet god claim, so what, so do other people with other god claims, get in line, take a number.

Your a moron. If this were true then why do religions ever die?

Again people are not as stupid as you need them to be for your justification to work. History has panned out that with in one or two generations of a soceity falling that supports a deity, belief in the deity itself ceases. Why? because the soceity (Rome Greece Egypt) full filled the promises of their Gods. When soceity died, so too did the gods.

Now just imagine what that fact says about a God who's claims society can not recreate. Namely a personal direct line to the Deity Himself. No prophets, not Priests or any type of intermediaries of any Kind. Just the believer (every believer) and God, Something no other religion in the History of man has ever offered.

Now in the light of the religious history of man, where man promptly abandons religions that do not full fill it's promises, why then do you think Christianity has been active so long and in such great numbers?

(May 16, 2016 at 4:06 pm)IATIA Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 3:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Welcome to AF.ORG Noob, you should really post your first post in the welcome/introduction thread. That said AF.ORG  differs from AF.Com (where you apparently came from) because members here discuss why they do not believe in God regularly and even start threads with this title so that they may share how and why they do not believe in God. What's even more funny is that long time members here are so disconnected from this fact that they will make the claim they do not do this here WHILE POSTING IN A THREAD DEDICATED TO "DISCUSSING THE REALITY OF GOD"

They are started for the benefit of the theists to give us a toy to play with.

I have been here longer than you.

You obviously have the same problem as most theists here in that you do not read stuff outside of your little world of delusion.

I know you have been longer that is why I wrote what I did (now in the bold type). Because despite your claim to the contrary you do indeed start threads concerning the existence of God and you do indeed go around in circles patting each other on the back about what you 'dont' believe. Despite the reason you do this you made the claim you do not. I thought it ironically funny that you were making this counter claim in one of the very thread literally dedicated to this very pursuit, and did not even seem to be aware of it!

Much like how your last comment rings of great irony as you do not seem to even read whole posts addressed to you or great and long time member/hollow tree stump. let alone anything outside your specific wheel house.

(May 17, 2016 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote: Again, no they have not Tried the method Christ ascribes in Luke 11.

They would know, better than you, what they did and didn;t do.  I don't care that your need to believe in it prevents you from extending common courtesy, and I don;t care how many times you claim that everyone who didn't hear god is a liar.  

Quote:The process starts 

-snipped-...because who cares at this point...?

Quote:That is why You stopped. You found a convincing reason Not to believe. That is what you wanted. That is the 'bias' you choose to view the world. Which again is fine, but don't pretend for a minute that your excuse for your current unbelief is the complete truth.

I never started, Drich.  Jesus christ, get that through your dense head.  Never been a believer.  

Quote:You may have found that your version of God did not exist, fine I concur as I read how shocked and appalled you are when you judge the contrast between what you believed and How God describes Himself. But that's where you stop.
You see a disparraging difference between your version of the Christian God and what I have told you the bible actually says, and you still lazily dismiss them as the same deity. Pretending your initial dismissal counts because your version and the bible's version share the same name and title.

....................................see above.  

Quote:I can promise you, that you nor anyone else here has A/S/K after the God of the bible. Agaiin your efforts could only center around what you thought you knew of God.

Your promises mean absolutely nothing to me.  

Quote:The God of the bible answered your prayer and obliterated your faith in your false deity, and gave you an oppertunity to seek Him out. You didn't. You stopped as you found what you were truly looking for. Not God but freedom to indulge in your sin.

What faith?  WTF are you -babbling- about? Who do you think you're speaking to? Do you find it even remotely worrying that you have to imagine things about both god and other people in order to rationalize your faith?

Quote:So then at what point are you claiming to have followed A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11? when you petitioned a version of a god that you and I both know does not exist?

reset the logic and try again. If I can poke holes through your 'sound' reasoning, then do you really think you will skirt accountability "because we all tried 'your' method and nothing happened?"

I never made that claim, never would make that claim, and don't give a shit about finding the christian god.  Just like I've told you, countless times. It should be a crime for you to even use the word logic in conversation.

If I wanted to find the Christian god, it would be to tell it to get its shit together and stop being such a prick.

Or possibly, to wake it up.

Or, inform it that someone is dragging it's name through the mud........

"You fucker! I've only been asleep for 5 God-minutes. You what? They've written what about me? Give me that thing..."