(June 30, 2011 at 5:20 pm)Epimethean Wrote: OK, but was Sasquatch on the ark?

Please. Give. One. Solid. Paper. That. Outlines. NEW. Creation. Model. In. Nutshell.

Not sure big foot is real, so can't answer that one.

Which part of the model do you want to know about?

I'm going to try a new tack here.

It is my argument that Statler does not understand the current model of biblical creation. I further argue that he is unaware of the current model of the biblical worldwide flood.

His inability to present even a laypersons summary of either subject is the proof I use to support my arguments.

(June 30, 2011 at 5:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote:

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I'm going to try a new tack here.

It is my argument that Statler does not understand the current model of biblical creation. I further argue that he is unaware of the current model of the biblical worldwide flood.

His inability to present even a laypersons summary of either subject is the proof I use to support my arguments.

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Like most of your arguments this one is easy to refute.

THE BASICS

God created in six literal days 6-8,000 years ago.

He created different "kinds" of animals; this is what is meant when creationists refer to biblical "kinds".

Approximately 4,500 years ago he destroyed all land animals that breathed through nostrils on earth except for those instructed to be saved on the ark

There are two different plate tectonic models that are believed to have taken place during the flood. Either way, the current model suggests that a breaking of the land mass took place during the flood year. Many oceanic trenches were formed along with mountain ranges causing the flood waters to recede back to the oceans.

The water recession carved many canyons and valleys we see today.

The warming of the oceans caused by the opening of several geothermal wells led to increased precipitation at the poles leading to a single ice age.

The animals dispersed from the act due to God's providential decree. They used many known ice bridges to repopulate the earth.

Man did not disperse, so God confused man's language at Babel, thus explaining the dozen or so parent languages identified today.
The confusion of language would have caused a setback for several of the groups. This in turn would have forced them to live more primitively than other groups, many resorting to living in caves.

Some of the animals taken on the ark would have found it difficult to survive in the post flood conditions thus leading to several extinctions.

Natural selection acted upon the biblical kinds of animals after the flood. The wealth genetic variability contained in these kinds of animals led to rapid speciation giving us all the animals we see today.

The fossil record gives an account of the rapid death and burial of many animals during the flood.

The flood event would also lead to flood legends in nearly all cultures in the world today.

That's a pretty good rundown I believe.

I can't even express how happy I am that my little jab actually worked. Thank you Statler for posting a summary of the current creation/flood models as you understand them.

(June 30, 2011 at 8:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I can't even express how happy I am that my little jab actually worked. Thank you Statler for posting a summary of the current creation/flood models as you understand them.

It's only a summary, I offered to give it earlier but nobody took me up on it.

(June 30, 2011 at 8:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I can't even express how happy I am that my little jab actually worked. Thank you Statler for posting a summary of the current creation/flood models as you understand them.

I can: lol.

wow.
You genuinely believe that don't you. It's all ridiculous, but that arc drivel is off the scale stupid.

It's like slapping rational thinking in the face and pissing on the compilation of hundreds and hundreds of years of legitimate scientific research.

wow.

(June 29, 2011 at 7:57 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:

(June 29, 2011 at 7:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I'd settle for the precursor of dogs ( wolves) with a T-Rex but you can't come up with that either.

Nor would I expect to, the creation model does not predict T rex and wolf fossils to be found side by side.

You can invent all the shit you like but it will not change the reality that T-Rex predates dogs by 65 million ( yes MILLION ) years.

(June 30, 2011 at 9:24 pm)Cinjin Wrote: wow.
You genuinely believe that don't you. It's all ridiculous, but that arc drivel is off the scale stupid.

It's like slapping rational thinking in the face and pissing on the compilation of hundreds and hundreds of years of legitimate scientific research.

wow.

I basicly agree with Statler Waldorf, I'm flexible on time lines but that's about the only thing I might differ on.

Quote:I basicly agree with Statler Waldorf

OF course. Two nuts growing on the same tree.