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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 14, 2017 at 4:14 pm
Took no time at all for the 9-11 Truther asswipes to start in with "how come the building didn't fall down" according to an email I got from a conspiracy nut I know.
How about because a fucking plane didn't crash into it at 500 mph, moron.
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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 14, 2017 at 5:23 pm
and if it did fall down it was preplaced explosives . . .
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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 14, 2017 at 9:08 pm
How was a 27 story apartment building in London allowed to take tenants when it had no fire alarms or sprinkler system?
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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 14, 2017 at 9:48 pm
As for lack of collapse:
was structure reinforced concrete? Those buildings can take enormous heat for a long time and not fall down. Takes a while to heat up the concrete enough to melt the rebar in it, and with a redundant design (which it appears to have, at least externally) you'll have to maintain the heat long enough to melt the rebar AND to do it over a sufficiently large volume of the structure as to bring it down. Additionally, as you climb higher in the structure, that volume can increase too as there is less weight above the damaged portion to support.
Also, the building might have had a steel frame (I-beams) that was encased in concrete. Such encasement can improve the rigidity of the structure (27 story building subject to wind might need that), it can protect the frame from people in the building doing something stupid like drilling holes in it for TV coax, it can protect the steel from water leaks causing corrosion, and it certainly will protect the steel from fire.
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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 14, 2017 at 9:50 pm
BTW:
wonderful coincidence about steel and concrete. Virtually identical coefficients of expansion with temperature. Concrete won't spall from the steel if it gets hot or cold after it's poured.
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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 14, 2017 at 9:51 pm
(June 14, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Took no time at all for the 9-11 Truther asswipes to start in with "how come the building didn't fall down" according to an email I got from a conspiracy nut I know.
How about because a fucking plane didn't crash into it at 500 mph, moron.
I'll bet it was built to a far different building code, and mostly masonry, to boot. It's an entirely different type of building design. And, no airplane with a nearly full load of fuel. And it ain't a Brazilian stories tall. And...
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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 15, 2017 at 12:48 am
[shudder]
I realize this was a chaotic event, but over 100 people might be unaccounted for.
We might be looking at a mass casualty tragedy.
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RE: Huge blaze engulfs 24-storey Grenfell Tower in west London
June 16, 2017 at 10:04 am
Confirmed death toll up to 30.
Officials just on the news say 70 are missing.
Reports of strong concerns about the fire safety of the building prior to the fire are VERY disturbing.
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