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RE: Leftwing Crazies And Their Climate Of Hate, Radicalism And Intolerance
June 18, 2017 at 8:21 am
(June 18, 2017 at 5:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: I think this play is obviously pushing the bounderies of free speech. It's very graphically showing a gang stab Donald Trump to death.
Its a fucking Shakespeare play that's what happens in the play.
They gave the leader a Trumpish look to be relevant, the same way they do to every political leader ever.
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RE: Leftwing Crazies And Their Climate Of Hate, Radicalism And Intolerance
June 18, 2017 at 8:44 am
(June 18, 2017 at 5:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: I think this play is obviously pushing the bounderies of free speech. It's very graphically showing a gang stab Donald Trump to death.
So why then weren't you and Woters and scooby and CL and all the others of your ilk up in arms when the same play featured Barry O'Bama (the most recent legitimate president) in the Iulius Caesar role?
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June 18, 2017 at 9:04 am
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(June 18, 2017 at 8:21 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (June 18, 2017 at 5:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: I think this play is obviously pushing the bounderies of free speech. It's very graphically showing a gang stab Donald Trump to death.
Its a fucking Shakespeare play that's what happens in the play.
They gave the leader a Trumpish look to be relevant, the same way they do to every political leader ever. Something like this? barack odumber in the role of Julius Caesar.
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It can still be relevant by using the original character of Julius Caesar. There's no reason to use a modern day political figure in that role unless you're the director trying to stir up controversy by targeting that figure with your expression of hatred.
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RE: Leftwing Crazies And Their Climate Of Hate, Radicalism And Intolerance
June 18, 2017 at 10:36 am
Pushing the boundaries of free speech is not the same as crossing the boundaries. Ironically, back when Shakespeare wrote his plays he had to be extremely careful not to upset the powers that be; so he had to use carefully constructed euphemisms and deep satire. That's probably one reason why his work is still relevant to the modern political picture, as attested by the OP.
As I said, social commentary.
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June 18, 2017 at 11:37 am
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(June 18, 2017 at 8:44 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: (June 18, 2017 at 5:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: I think this play is obviously pushing the bounderies of free speech. It's very graphically showing a gang stab Donald Trump to death.
So why then weren't you and Woters and scooby and CL and all the others of your ilk up in arms when the same play featured Barry O'Bama (the most recent legitimate president) in the Iulius Caesar role?
I'm not up in arms about this as I stated. I wasn't up in arms about whatever else you're talking about because this is the first I've heard of it.
(June 18, 2017 at 8:44 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: (June 18, 2017 at 5:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: I think this play is obviously pushing the bounderies of free speech. It's very graphically showing a gang stab Donald Trump to death.
So why then weren't you and Woters and scooby and CL and all the others of your ilk up in arms when the same play featured Barry O'Bama (the most recent legitimate president) in the Iulius Caesar role?
I'm not up in arms about this as I stated. I wasn't up in arms about whatever else you're talking about because this is the first I've heard of it.
(June 18, 2017 at 8:21 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (June 18, 2017 at 5:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: I think this play is obviously pushing the bounderies of free speech. It's very graphically showing a gang stab Donald Trump to death.
Its a fucking Shakespeare play that's what happens in the play.
They gave the leader a Trumpish look to be relevant, the same way they do to every political leader ever.
And he doesn't look trumpish by accident.
It's a play about the assassination of Donald trump.
Just like animal farm isn't just a story of a farm full of animals.
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June 18, 2017 at 11:48 am
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No, Pablo, that's not what Julias Ceasar is about...lol.
As others have tried to explain, it's about the same thing it's always been about - but had to be written so intentionally broad as to encopmpass all manner of then current, now past,. and future despots. I mean, honestly, if you think that it's about killing trump, if the reboot is that compelling, whose fault is that, shakespeare's or trumps? Yes, it's intentional, the purpose is to modernize the play, to make it relatable and current.
In our own time, the assassination scene is already over. The leakers and the administration traitors that brought all of trumps problems to light, the reps who stalled his "agenda" even though they had complete control of government, have already dealt him a hundred cuts. One wonders who Trumps Brutus might have been, and how this will all pan out for them.
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June 18, 2017 at 12:22 pm
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It matters not the actors or the stage. The leaders or the age . Shakespeare speaks to everyone race nation or age.
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