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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 15, 2017 at 12:46 am
(September 14, 2017 at 10:19 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: (September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: The problem you have begins by believing I'm delusional and the next part of the problem you have is believing I'm trying to sale you something. I was given the gift of salvation through grace and it's not for sale, gifts are not bought they are given through love and all i'm trying to do is show people that God loves them despite what they want to believe.
I gave you a long response in another thread and you chose not to respond and that's fine, but there was one question I asked you that I was hoping to get an answer to and I believe that question is why you did not respond.
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No, you've CONVINCED us that you're delusional. So, until we see evidence to the contrary. All you are showing is that, for some reason, people grow into adulthood still "believing makes it so".
I wish you restrain yourself from answering my posts to others, I have enough to answer without you do this.
I have proof God is who He says He is and that the whole of the Bible is true, it's nothing you would accept, but then it wasn't meant for you anyway.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 15, 2017 at 1:41 am
(September 14, 2017 at 11:57 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (September 14, 2017 at 3:36 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: So you are projecting by saying that I'm confused while in your confusion you fail to explain why you constantly put Jesus and evolution in the same context and yet claim that evolution never happened.
I've never associated Jesus Christ the creator with evolution, you are flat out lying or you are confused, take your choice but one of the two are true and possibly both.
You did, you said that when scientists are observing evolution in lab that they are playing Jesus.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 15, 2017 at 2:45 am
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 15, 2017 at 3:25 am
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(September 15, 2017 at 12:46 am)Godscreated Wrote: I have proof God is who He says He is and that the whole of the Bible is true,
Then name us some archaeological discovery that proves any of the stories in the Bible happened or that your god is real. Or maybe name us museums that hold same. Tell us which of at least six tombs claimed to be Daniel's from the Bible is the real one.
Or is it the way you know Bible is real is the same way you handle your Jesus and evolution in the same context fiasco - you simply deny it happened until you convince yourself it happened just as you wish it.
(September 15, 2017 at 12:46 am)Godscreated Wrote: it's nothing you would accept, but then it wasn't meant for you anyway.
Of course since Bible reads like instruction manual for achieving a divided, angry, and violent world. It does not appear to be a recipe for peace and unity. It is a very miserable message from a god, since it was able to convince only a minority of people.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 15, 2017 at 7:40 am
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(September 15, 2017 at 2:45 am)Godscreated Wrote: Wow someone got their shorts in a knot, calm down it's not the end of the world, yet. Evolution has been redefined so many times one could hardly keep up with it and most of that redefinition has come because of the work of scientist outside the belief of evolution. No one has ever seen anything change from one type to another, ever. I've seen all that stuff evolutionary science claims and all those things are still the same thing except for some loss of information in DNA. Why is that so hard for you to see. I'm not sure why you'd say that, again, after having gotten examples of it in this thread, not but a few posts back. Yes, we have observed speciation in the lab and in nature. We've even observed the evolution of a new -genera-.....which is a fair few steps "up" the ladder from your weasel words "kind" and "type".
If your rejection of evolutionary biology hinges upon this retarded and oft repeated statement being true than your rejection of evolutionary biology is groundless. What you thought had never happened, has happened quite alot. So, incorporate that, stop lying about evolution, and come up with a new excuse. Similarly, what you think must happen for evolution to be true, has nothing to do with evolution, so stop lying about evolution...and come up with a new excuse.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 15, 2017 at 9:16 am
I repeat: I was there six million years ago, in fact I was there fourteen thousand million years ago and every time since then. I will have been there thousands of millions of years in the future, too. And I have proof of this. Unfortunately, it's proof that you won't accept.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 15, 2017 at 11:18 am
(September 15, 2017 at 12:46 am)Godscreated Wrote: (September 14, 2017 at 10:19 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: No, you've CONVINCED us that you're delusional. So, until we see evidence to the contrary. All you are showing is that, for some reason, people grow into adulthood still "believing makes it so".
I wish you restrain yourself from answering my posts to others, I have enough to answer without you do this.
I have proof God is who He says He is and that the whole of the Bible is true, it's nothing you would accept, but then it wasn't meant for you anyway.
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Bite me. If no one but believers would accept your proof, it isn't proof of anything but your delusions.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 20, 2017 at 8:42 pm
You know, I'm not even going to attempt to parse the rest of the willful ignorance in your last reply to me. I'll let it all stand on it's ow (lack of) merits.
(September 15, 2017 at 2:45 am)Godscreated Wrote: The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:That one question you wanted an answer to... Why don't you restate it here, or at least link me to the post. I must have missed it, especially if it was in one of you walls of text. After all, it's hard to sort through your drivel, especially when you speak as if English is a second language.
I asked you if anyone had ever told you that God saves in His time and that you might have been outside His timing. God isn't going to give you an invitation until you are ready. That's why I also asked you if you knew what omnipresence meant as applied to God, another question you did not answer. Now I know that's two questions but it shouldn't take all that much effort to give me an answer to them.
Do you have any fucking idea how many different variations I've heard about how your gawd "saves," all from people just as certain as you that their version is the absolute word of gawd truth? The same with omnipresence. Now, I know you're gonna want to argue that your absolute word of gawd truth is even truthier than their absolute word of gawd truth. Please, spare me. You have no evidence. You have no facts. You have no knowledge. You don't even have your gawd's words, but the words of men being passed off as the words of your gawd.
It's really very simple GC. I tried to get in communion with your gawd. It answered with nothing. Nada, nil, zilch, absolutely fuck-all. You want me to believe the timing wasn't right? I say bullshit. If your omniscient gawd wanted me, it would have known the timing would never be better. Still the answer was a complete and utter lack of answer, so quit trying to sell me. I'm not falling for the con.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 25, 2017 at 12:30 am
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 25, 2017 at 2:11 am
(September 25, 2017 at 12:30 am)Godscreated Wrote: None of that shows anything other than lost information, no plant became a totally different plant now did it.
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It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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