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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:04 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 8:52 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Whatever suffering possible in this world, if we are patient and steadfast in midst of it, and in midst peril, out of love of the Great Ultimate Beauty that sees us exactly as we are, the love that ensues to us from that loving being, is worth it, as well as the honourable position we will have in its absolute eye which is the vision of the absolute truth.
Frankly, you don't sound much different from the hippie types that we're famous for in California.
On a slightly related note, I hate that I live on the Left Coast and I seem to miss all the excitement because I'm at work while a thread gets 24 pages in a matter of hours, for Pete's sake lol. Is the entire thread worth a read?
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:07 pm
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Quote:God's ways are higher and understand his ways best, is a valid response,
No it's not a valid response it's a fairy tale
Quote: if someone doesn't know why but is sure God exists. Despite Atheists hating it.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:07 pm
I -am- giving religions their due, what they are due..is our utter contempt and derision.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:07 pm
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(November 7, 2017 at 11:04 pm)bennyboy Wrote: (November 7, 2017 at 9:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: God's ways are higher and understand his ways best, is a valid response, if someone doesn't know why but is sure God exists. Despite Atheists hating it.
If by "valid," you mean "dodging the philosophical issues with evil in an attempt to make an irrational fairy tale seem plausible," then okay.
The argument from evil in all its forms are arguments from ignorance. That is the essential structure of them all.
They are not providing all possible explanations and then showing them all to be wrong.
They are arguments from ignorance, the fact, that Theists give responses, is simply because it is strong emotionally and needs to be addressed for that sake, but intellectually, it has no concrete basis and falls flat in so many ways.
If it was posed as a honest question and not asserting to disprove God, it would warrant honest answer, and I don't know why when someone doesn't know, is the best answer sometimes.
(November 7, 2017 at 11:04 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: (November 7, 2017 at 8:52 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Whatever suffering possible in this world, if we are patient and steadfast in midst of it, and in midst peril, out of love of the Great Ultimate Beauty that sees us exactly as we are, the love that ensues to us from that loving being, is worth it, as well as the honourable position we will have in its absolute eye which is the vision of the absolute truth.
Frankly, you don't sound much different from the hippie types that we're famous for in California.
On a slightly related note, I hate that I live on the Left Coast and I seem to miss all the excitement because I'm at work while a thread gets 24 pages in a matter of hours, for Pete's sake lol. Is the entire thread worth a read?
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My love has a much more vengeful taste to it. Not hippy style.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:10 pm
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Who's looking to disprove god? I'm just telling you that if god exists, and is what you say it is....then it's pretty much the definition of evil. No human being could even come close, if..for no other reason, than lack of adequate time in a single life to catch up to the bodycount.
Allah's been puttin in the work.
Conveniently, this is one of the three potential conclusions of the PoE.
God is evil. You;re not disputing it, in this thread...you're just telling us that god does what god wants and sometimes he gives some people cookies at the end. Yeah, we know, we've heard the stories.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:12 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 11:10 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Who's looking to disprove god? I'm just telling you that if god exists, and is what you say it is....then it's pretty much the definition of evil. No human being could even come close, if..for no other reason, than lack of adequate time in a single life to catch up to the bodycount.
Allah's been puttin in the work.
Conveniently, this is one of the three conclusions of the PoE. God is evil.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:13 pm
Is it another dipshit telling me how evil god is and then claiming that this solves the problem of evil?
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:14 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 11:13 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Is it another dipshit telling me how evil god is and then claiming that this solves the problem of evil?
It is me joking around.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:18 pm
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Ah. I see. You know.....in the Allah approved version of that one...they both end up in the lava. He doesn't fuck with sorcerers.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 11:21 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 11:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (November 7, 2017 at 11:04 pm)bennyboy Wrote: If by "valid," you mean "dodging the philosophical issues with evil in an attempt to make an irrational fairy tale seem plausible," then okay.
The argument from evil in all its forms are arguments from ignorance. That is the essential structure of them all.
They are not providing all possible explanations and then showing them all to be wrong.
They are arguments from ignorance, the fact, that Theists give responses, is simply because it is strong emotionally and needs to be addressed for that sake, but intellectually, it has no concrete basis and falls flat in so many ways.
If it was posed as a honest question and not asserting to disprove God, it would warrant honest answer, and I don't know why when someone doesn't know, is the best answer sometimes.
(November 7, 2017 at 11:04 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: Frankly, you don't sound much different from the hippie types that we're famous for in California.
On a slightly related note, I hate that I live on the Left Coast and I seem to miss all the excitement because I'm at work while a thread gets 24 pages in a matter of hours, for Pete's sake lol. Is the entire thread worth a read?
-Teresa
My love has a much more vengeful taste to it. Not hippy style.
Vengeful love. Huh. Could be a good name for a rock band, I guess.
-Teresa
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