One instance of that and the policy goes into the shitter....especially in fucking Utah.

During my younger days while camping we were paired with camp-buddies who were decided by pseudo-lottery (cause the pairings often seemed suspiciously pre-determined to me) and we weren't allowed to say 'no'. I can sort of understand how that helps teach inclusion, cause no matter how we felt about each other, we had to work together to get the badges. But in this case, the policy seems quite misguided and does in fact send the wrong message. I fully agree with the mom in this instance.

They're training these kids that others are more important than themselves. One's own feelings, indeed potentially one's own safety, matter not nearly so much as the maintenance of an artificial socialbility.

There are other ways to teach inclusion that don't teach submission as well.

As I’ve recently discovered, it seems the whole of ethics is just commentary on one question: “how dare you worry about your selfish needs and desires when you can worry about someone else’s selfish needs and desires?” And it would appear that this is the generation that brings this into sharp relief and doesn’t even bother to dress it up in the language of the greater good





Or universal rights or anything like that. Answer selfishness with selfishness. Or the sort of Mutual oppression that would make Ellsworth Toohey proud and why the fuck has the world degenerated itself to the point where Ayn Rand starts to seem like a decent point of reference? Well, at least it’s not Atlas Shrugged, so At least I haven’t totally taken leave of my senses.

That’s creepy as fuck. No one should be forcing or threatening kids into participating in any kind of unwanted touching. What the hell? If I was parent to one of those kids I’d be throwing a fit about it.

No just no . No one should be forced to dance if they don't want to.

The title is a bit misleading. No one can say no unless there is a legitimate issue. Not just girls to boys.

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I can kinda see both sides, to be honest. The dance is voluntary. If you don't feel comfortable with the rules, don't go to the dance.

(February 11, 2018 at 4:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: That’s creepy as fuck.  No one should be forcing or threatening kids into participating in any kind of unwanted touching.  What the hell?  If I was parent to one of those kids I’d be throwing a fit about it.

Well, it's obvious we went to different grade schools, in different eras.

My, how times have changed.  I've asked a lot of women to dance, and many of them gave a 'no' that was, to say the least, enthusiastic.

Boru

Quote:The title is a bit misleading. No one can say no unless there is a legitimate issue. Not just girls to boys.

The fact they said no is a legitimate issue

Quote:I can kinda see both sides, to be honest. The dance is voluntary. If you don't feel comfortable with the rules, don't go to the dance.

Nope they can show up but they should not have to dance if they don't want to . The rule is absurd .