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What's the point of philosophy any more?
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 (March 20, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Hammy Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 9:33 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: People have been declaring philosophy useless for a long time. Socrates' contemporaries couldn't find any use in it, and that was before it birthed the sciences. And the old guy screaming at the youngsters to get off their lawn.  RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 4:37 pm
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(March 20, 2018 at 11:02 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 7:01 am)Mathilda Wrote: I have often ranted about philosophy in the past, more so about people who think that they are doing philosophy because they string along some arbitrary premises to reach a specific conclusion without ever applying it to the real world. IMO science deals with experiential reality. What we call the "real world" which is ironically, subjective rather than objective  (March 20, 2018 at 12:05 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: One could say that philosophy is the illusion of knowledge. One could also say that all chipmunks smell strongly of acid. Philosophy is not the illusion of knowledge any more than green is the illusion of an umbrella. Epistemology which deals with what is and isn't knowledge, is a subfield of philosophy for christ sake lol. (March 20, 2018 at 12:14 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It's the ground floor in the funhouse...at least, and everything contained therein may not be entirely true but you'll have no way of telling up from down once you're in it....lol. Why is it that people who view philosophy in low light tend to regularly show themselves to be buffoons?
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March 20, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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(March 20, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Hammy Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 9:33 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: People have been declaring philosophy useless for a long time. Socrates' contemporaries couldn't find any use in it, and that was before it birthed the sciences. -not even remotely. For all of the civil utility of philosophy..it had nothing to do with the establishment of civilization. That was a pre-existing condition. Quote:Why is it that people who view philosophy in low light tend to regularly show themselves to be buffoons?My opinion..because buffoons call their silly beliefs "philosophy"....and it gets ridiculed by association. Case example above..when you call "experiential reality".... "subjective". (you know I love you ham...don't be salty, lol)
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March 20, 2018 at 4:44 pm
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(March 20, 2018 at 4:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Hammy Wrote: /thread No, you're confusing "philosophy" with "grumpy old bastard". (March 20, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -not even remotely. For all of the civil utility of philosophy..it had nothing to do with the establishment of civilization. That was a pre-existing condition. Depends how you define "civilization". In many ways we're still far from civilization even today. There's a difference between civilization and technology. If a bunch of barbarians invent farming before sitting down to think about stuff is that civilization? I can't think of anything that has civilized us more than philosophy. Quote:My opinion..because buffoons call their silly beliefs "philosophy"....and it gets ridiculed by association. So as per usual, you strawman a position before you attack it.  RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 6:53 pm
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March 20, 2018 at 7:07 pm
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(March 20, 2018 at 6:53 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 10:29 am)Mathilda Wrote: I suppose I'm just slightly cynical that what pure Philosophers get up to (especially after a few I've started vaping it for my MS. I have to say though, it has done absolute wonders for my ideas in AI. I've had some real inspiration whilst high that actually works well in practice when I come to implement it the next day. I think I have also figured out how it actually has the effects that it does, which is really interesting. 
We need philosophers.
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