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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 9:53 am
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It doesn't matter whether I view kids as punishment, knob, pro-life advocates seek to establish this as a reality with the help of the state.
This doesn't strike me as an appropriate use of the power of the state, or, for that matter..an appropriate use of children.
Conveniently, this is why roe v wade went the way it did.
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 9:56 am
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Yup anti choicers are indeed using kids as a punishment for promiscuity . And that's fucking scary .
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 9:58 am
Also, khem, why do you think a woman in an unwanted pregnancy is necessarily a slut?
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 9:59 am
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Phoning it in.
If kids shouldn't be a punishment, and women who have unwanted pregnancies aren't sluts..what happens to that "consequences of their actions" bullshit?
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 10:10 am
It's just that bullshit like most of Beta Fails squirming on abortion.
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 10:17 am
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IMO, it expresses the fundamental disconnect between camps on this position. You;re not going to find many people who consider an abortion to be the best possible outcome of any sexual encounter. This is why bitching about "consequences" is pointless. Abortion isn't made legal or illegal on the basis of conception being a "consequence" of sex..and it isn't in any relevant sense a consequence anyway....unless the law is made to turn it into one.
-That- is why abortion isn't illegal, here. Even though most people would..in a perfect world..like to see it go some other way. The effect of legally stigmatizing the procedure and enforcing birth as a consequence is an abrogation of the rights that our government is constitutionally bound to protect. We've seen the results of an abuse of the power of the state in this way. It's completely unconscionable to seek a return to that...regardless of ones personal opinion or position on the matter.
So..pro-lifers..find some other way. Hell, fund a prgram to make condoms and birth control free at point of access to teens (and everybody else). Do some outreach somewhere besides the statehouse, or sham shaming "clinics". Fund group homes and adoption programs. There are plenty of far less ghoulish ways to achieve the end goal. Have the presence of mind..even, to accept that succeeding in those less ghoulish efforts still won't prevent every abortion.
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 10:45 am
(April 9, 2018 at 9:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: Phoning it in.
If kids shouldn't be a punishment, and women who have unwanted pregnancies aren't sluts..what happens to that "consequences of their actions" bullshit?
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/consequence
Consequence means result, not punishment.
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 10:48 am
It's not a consequence in that sense either...unless you turn it into a punishment by criminalizing the procedure.
Are you really trying to discuss reproductive rights with me, by reference to an online dictionary?
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 10:50 am
(April 9, 2018 at 10:17 am)Khemikal Wrote: IMO, it expresses the fundamental disconnect between camps on this position. You;re not going to find many people who consider an abortion to be the best possible outcome of any sexual encounter. This is why bitching about "consequences" is pointless. Abortion isn't made legal or illegal on the basis of conception being a "consequence" of sex..and it isn't in any relevant sense a consequence anyway....unless the law is made to turn it into one.
Yep, and that indicates that you and the others crying slut-shaming are doing so as a red herring.
The fundamental disconnect between camps is that one camp sees the fetus as a human being, and the other doesn't.
In this specific case LFC agrees with the first camp after a point, yet cries slut-shamer just like those in the second camp. That's the interesting thing that I'm trying to understand.
And on that point: @LFC, if someone who supports abortion past 20 weeks called you a slut shamer, how would you respond?
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 9, 2018 at 10:54 am
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There you go again, lol. I don't see a fetus as a human being, but it hardly matters whether or not I did, because even classifying a fetus as a human being wouldn;t be enough to overturn roe v wade...and personally...I don't think a fetus has to be a human being to be worth carrying to term to be one.
Maybe that;s why I have so many kids, huh? But you do you, continue to misapprehend the issue and your opposition....I'm sure that will work, someday. You may not like being recognized as an ignorant slut shamer looking to settle for hypocrisy in the absence of an argument....but, unfortunately, the shoe fits.
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