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RE: Christians: Can you see why atheists don't buy this stuff?
August 15, 2018 at 12:51 am
(August 14, 2018 at 11:35 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I also wouldn't expect a non-believer, to believe in Biblical inerrancy.
Yeah. That would be weird.
Thanks for your reply. Really, I think it's pretty dangerous to take any book as absolutely true and beyond questioning. I mean, I could produce documentation of Christian cults for whom abuse of their members was justified by Biblical passages, but I don't think those instances apply to mainstream Christians. But take any book... say Plato's Republic... a favorite of mine. If you read the book and try to unearth the nugget of moral truth within, it will serve as a great benefit. But to literally follow it as if it were unquestionable truth would be horrible.
I know that Methodists don't push the idea of inerrancy. One of the main reasons for their doing that is that they feel the different books of the Bible are better understood in context. And that's true of any piece of writing. To understand it in context is to better understand it--period.
The problem I have is that I've known fully grown adults who have repeated the claim that everything in the Bible is true, but hadn't really considered or given much thought to the fact that the Bible was written and compiled by people throughout history. There are people who literally think that God wrote it himself. It wouldn't be such a problem for me if so many people who "believe every word" of scripture weren't so malinformed.
RE: Christians: Can you see why atheists don't buy this stuff?
August 15, 2018 at 12:55 am
(August 15, 2018 at 12:51 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(August 14, 2018 at 11:35 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I also wouldn't expect a non-believer, to believe in Biblical inerrancy.
Yeah. That would be weird.
Thanks for your reply. Really, I think it's pretty dangerous to take any book as absolutely true and beyond questioning.
No you dont...lol......
Quote:I mean, I could produce documentation of Christian cults for whom abuse of their members was justified by Biblical passages, but I don't think those instances apply to mainstream Christians. But take any book... say Plato's Republic... a favorite of mine. If you read the book and try to unearth the nugget of moral truth within, it will serve as a great benefit. But to literally follow it as if it were unquestionable truth would be horrible.
The crazy christians get magic book wrong, don't they?
Quote:I know that Methodists don't push the idea of inerrancy. One of the main reasons for their doing that is that they feel the different books of the Bible are better understood in context. And that's true of any piece of writing. To understand it in context is to better understand it--period.
Understanding the NT "in context" is something that no christian can do..because to be a christian, you have to remove and supplant context. You have to deny it, and assert magic.
Quote:The problem I have is that I've known fully grown adults who have repeated the claim that everything in the Bible is true, but hadn't really considered or given much thought to the fact that the Bible was written and compiled by people throughout history. There are people who literally think that God wrote it himself. It wouldn't be such a problem for me if so many people who "believe every word" of scripture weren't so malinformed.
I bet you think you have a line on which parts of magic book were well informed...like every other malinformed christian does.
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RE: Christians: Can you see why atheists don't buy this stuff?
August 15, 2018 at 1:06 am (This post was last modified: August 15, 2018 at 1:08 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Case of mistaken identity, lol. Mea Culpa.
(did I mention that I'm slamming the whiskey tonight....?)
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RE: Christians: Can you see why atheists don't buy this stuff?
August 15, 2018 at 1:45 am
Quote:Concerning how Judas died, here is a simple reconciliation of the facts:
It's easy to do actually...you just trot out the gospel of St. Shitferbrains in which some asshole decides to combine this bullshit so morons are not given indigestion.
They are so easily fooled.
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RE: Christians: Can you see why atheists don't buy this stuff?
August 15, 2018 at 6:21 am
(August 15, 2018 at 12:51 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(August 14, 2018 at 11:35 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I also wouldn't expect a non-believer, to believe in Biblical inerrancy.
Yeah. That would be weird.
Thanks for your reply. Really, I think it's pretty dangerous to take any book as absolutely true and beyond questioning. I mean, I could produce documentation of Christian cults for whom abuse of their members was justified by Biblical passages, but I don't think those instances apply to mainstream Christians. But take any book... say Plato's Republic... a favorite of mine. If you read the book and try to unearth the nugget of moral truth within, it will serve as a great benefit. But to literally follow it as if it were unquestionable truth would be horrible.
I know that Methodists don't push the idea of inerrancy. One of the main reasons for their doing that is that they feel the different books of the Bible are better understood in context. And that's true of any piece of writing. To understand it in context is to better understand it--period.
The problem I have is that I've known fully grown adults who have repeated the claim that everything in the Bible is true, but hadn't really considered or given much thought to the fact that the Bible was written and compiled by people throughout history. There are people who literally think that God wrote it himself. It wouldn't be such a problem for me if so many people who "believe every word" of scripture weren't so malinformed.
I do believe in Biblical inerrancy, however; I am not without error. Which is where I think that some go wrong. Your video makes me think of the quote from Augustine that “you should never judge a philosophy by it’s abuse”. As well as the academic principle of charity. That is that you should contend with the best possible version of an argument, and not judge an idea by some crazy or extreme adherent.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
