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Mary's Ten Year Pregnancy
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 (December 1, 2018 at 6:10 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I got this one! Credible historians are defined as those who do not believe that any of the patriarchs of the old testament existed. I think there are credible people who are atheists, Christians, Muslims, and whatever else you want to throw out there. I don't always agree with all of them, but I respect those who care and try to understand life.  (December 1, 2018 at 6:05 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: What you stated was blatantly untrue. "No credible historians..." You are describing yourself there. You are so desperate to prove your point that you put links to tabloid magazines! I mean even Times Of Israel ridiculed that article Quote:Biblical story PROOF: Ancient palace of King David DISCOVERED in historic find,” proclaimed one British tabloid. “Groundbreaking Discovery: King David’s City Found Exactly Where the Bible Said It Was,” trumpeted a conservative American outlet. It's not my fault your religion is bullshit. An no, no credible historian thinks that Adam existed, or Noah, or that hairy strongman Sampson or David or Moses.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (November 26, 2018 at 7:21 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: Fun Bible Fact for this Christmas season: Actually, it's only 9 years from 4 BC to 6 AD. The geniuses that devised our calendar hadn't discovered the zero yet, so there's only 1 year between 1 BC and 1 AD. No, the math doesn't make much sense. Quote:So the Wholly Babble establishes that Mary was pregnant already with the Lord as Elizabeth's six month old fetus was leaping for joy. Since this conception happened during the reign of Harod the Great, it all happened no later than March of 2004, when Harod died. Any questions so far? Why didn't it make the news? 
 (December 1, 2018 at 4:44 am)Godscreated Wrote: Every one is ignoring the actual comment, the ten year pregnancy. It's not possible, why, because Jesus was born before Herod died and that was 4BC, Jesus was born in 6BC and was taken to Egypt before Herod died and returned to Judea soon after Herod died. It doesn't matter which Herod was ruling at the time it only matters that the same Herod was referenced in the story of Jesus birth and first couple of years. Jesus was born nine months after the Holy conception, if He was not then the rest of His life and history would not mesh which it does. You're talking about Matthew's Jesus who was clearly born under the reign of Herod the Great, since the "slaughter of the innocents" happened on his order in a story lifted right from Moses. Jesus' family fled to Egypt and then later came to settle in Nazareth. Luke's Jesus followed a different story. Mary came to Bethlehem for the census and gave birth there. Luke specifies that she immediately returned to Nazareth with no trip to Egypt (see Luke chapter 2). This census couldn't have happened sooner than 6 CE because Judea wasn't a province of Rome until that time. Also, Luke refers to Antipas as "the Tetrarch" not "king of Judea" (see Luke chapter 9:7). Luke also places the birth of Jesus when Quirinius was governor of Syria, which didn't begin until 6 CE.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist (December 1, 2018 at 6:34 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(December 1, 2018 at 6:05 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: What you stated was blatantly untrue. "No credible historians..." What religion? What tabloid magazine? I posted a link from the NY Post, which originated in The Sun. Which one of those do you believe to be a tabloid? Also, ridicule means squat... Thomas Edison - Invented Light Bulb (Ridiculed) Wright Brothers - Invented Airplanes (Ridiculed) Albert Einstein - Came up with Theory of Relativity, as well as many other things (Ridiculed) Gregor Mendel - Established the scientific field of genetics. (Ridiculed) (Don't think I need to go on with this list) Anytime there is a statement made about anything related to religion or politics, there will always be people who don't like it and find a reason to ridicule it. RE: Mary's Ten Year Pregnancy
December 1, 2018 at 7:03 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2018 at 7:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
They laughed at bozo the clown, too. Just like I'm laughing at you, now, for having fielded such an inept observation.
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 Quote:I posted a link from the NY Post, The Post is one half-step above the Enquirer. Quote:"I confess that I buy Hustler magazine, but only because I need something to hide my copy of the Post in." (December 1, 2018 at 6:54 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(December 1, 2018 at 4:44 am)Godscreated Wrote: Every one is ignoring the actual comment, the ten year pregnancy. It's not possible, why, because Jesus was born before Herod died and that was 4BC, Jesus was born in 6BC and was taken to Egypt before Herod died and returned to Judea soon after Herod died. It doesn't matter which Herod was ruling at the time it only matters that the same Herod was referenced in the story of Jesus birth and first couple of years. Jesus was born nine months after the Holy conception, if He was not then the rest of His life and history would not mesh which it does. The math doesn't work out because the tale about the census was a post hoc addition so that Jesus of Nazareth could be born in Bethlehem in order to fulfil certain prophecies. The Romans didn't conduct censuses by uprooting the population. That makes no sense whatsoever. The whole point of a census is to figure out how many people are living where, not wherever they were born. (December 1, 2018 at 10:35 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: The math doesn't work out because the tale about the census was a post hoc addition so that Jesus of Nazareth could be born in Bethlehem in order to fulfil certain prophecies. The Romans didn't conduct censuses by uprooting the population. That makes no sense whatsoever. The whole point of a census is to figure out how many people are living where, not wherever they were born. Agreed but my point was the Gospels of Luke and Matthew are on two different timelines and can't be reconciled with each other.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist |
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