Mary's Ten Year Pregnancy

[T0 Th3 M4X]

I got this one!  Credible historians are defined as those who do not believe that any of the patriarchs of the old testament existed.

Ha!  Checkmate!

I think there are credible people who are atheists, Christians, Muslims, and whatever else you want to throw out there. I don't always agree with all of them, but I respect those who care and try to understand life.

[Fake Messiah]

What you stated was blatantly untrue.  "No credible historians..." 

You are describing yourself there. You are so desperate to prove your point that you put links to tabloid magazines! I mean even Times Of Israel ridiculed that article

Biblical story PROOF: Ancient palace of King David DISCOVERED in historic find,” proclaimed one British tabloid. “Groundbreaking Discovery: King David’s City Found Exactly Where the Bible Said It Was,” trumpeted a conservative American outlet.

Standing next to his Tel ‘Eton excavation on a straw-covered hill in the southeastern part of Israel’s Judean Shephalah (lowlands), a little over 20 miles southeast of Ashkelon, Bar-Ilan University Prof. Avraham Faust describes with disbelief the media storm of misquotes and half-understood facts surrounding him for the past two weeks. “It’s been a real learning moment,” said archaeologist Faust.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/proof-of-k...elite-era/

It's not my fault your religion is bullshit. An no, no credible historian thinks that Adam existed, or Noah, or that hairy strongman Sampson or David or Moses.

[Paleophyte]

Fun Bible Fact for this Christmas season:
Mary's pregnancy with the Lord lasted 10 years. 

Actually, it's only 9 years from 4 BC to 6 AD. The geniuses that devised our calendar hadn't discovered the zero yet, so there's only 1 year between 1 BC and 1 AD. No, the math doesn't make much sense.

So the Wholly Babble establishes that Mary was pregnant already with the Lord as Elizabeth's six month old fetus was leaping for joy. Since this conception happened during the reign of Harod the Great, it all happened no later than March of 2004, when Harod died. Any questions so far?

Why didn't it make the news?  

[DeistPaladin]

Every one is ignoring the actual comment, the ten year pregnancy. It's not possible, why, because Jesus was born before Herod died and that was 4BC, Jesus was born in 6BC and was taken to Egypt before Herod died and returned to Judea soon after Herod died. It doesn't matter which Herod was ruling at the time it only matters that the same Herod was referenced in the story of Jesus birth and first couple of years. Jesus was born nine months after the Holy conception, if He was not then the rest of His life and history would not mesh which it does.  

GC

You're talking about Matthew's Jesus who was clearly born under the reign of Herod the Great, since the "slaughter of the innocents" happened on his order in a story lifted right from Moses. Jesus' family fled to Egypt and then later came to settle in Nazareth. 

Luke's Jesus followed a different story. Mary came to Bethlehem for the census and gave birth there. Luke specifies that she immediately returned to Nazareth with no trip to Egypt (see Luke chapter 2). This census couldn't have happened sooner than 6 CE because Judea wasn't a province of Rome until that time. Also, Luke refers to Antipas as "the Tetrarch" not "king of Judea" (see Luke chapter 9:7). Luke also places the birth of Jesus when Quirinius was governor of Syria, which didn't begin until 6 CE.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

What you stated was blatantly untrue.  "No credible historians..." 

You are describing yourself there. You are so desperate to prove your point that you put links to tabloid magazines! I mean even Times Of Israel ridiculed that article

Biblical story PROOF: Ancient palace of King David DISCOVERED in historic find,” proclaimed one British tabloid. “Groundbreaking Discovery: King David’s City Found Exactly Where the Bible Said It Was,” trumpeted a conservative American outlet.

Standing next to his Tel ‘Eton excavation on a straw-covered hill in the southeastern part of Israel’s Judean Shephalah (lowlands), a little over 20 miles southeast of Ashkelon, Bar-Ilan University Prof. Avraham Faust describes with disbelief the media storm of misquotes and half-understood facts surrounding him for the past two weeks. “It’s been a real learning moment,” said archaeologist Faust.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/proof-of-k...elite-era/

It's not my fault your religion is bullshit. An no, no credible historian thinks that Adam existed, or Noah, or that hairy strongman Sampson or David or Moses.

What religion?  What tabloid magazine?  I posted a link from the NY Post, which originated in The Sun.  Which one of those do you believe to be a tabloid?

Also, ridicule means squat...

Thomas Edison - Invented Light Bulb (Ridiculed)
Wright Brothers - Invented Airplanes (Ridiculed)
Albert Einstein - Came up with Theory of Relativity, as well as many other things (Ridiculed)
Gregor Mendel - Established the scientific field of genetics.  (Ridiculed)
(Don't think I need to go on with this list)

Anytime there is a statement made about anything related to religion or politics, there will always be people who don't like it and find a reason to ridicule it.

[The Grand Nudger]

They laughed at bozo the clown, too. Just like I'm laughing at you, now, for having fielded such an inept observation.

[Minimalist]

I posted a link from the NY Post,

The Post is one half-step above the Enquirer.

"I confess that I buy Hustler magazine, but only because I need something to hide my copy of the Post in."

--Elayne Boosler

[T0 Th3 M4X]

They laughed at bozo the clown, too.  Just like I'm laughing at you, now, for having fielded such an inept observation.

Which means "squat" as well, but doesn't mean you're not a "special" person with feelings.  So have a nice day.

[Paleophyte]

Every one is ignoring the actual comment, the ten year pregnancy. It's not possible, why, because Jesus was born before Herod died and that was 4BC, Jesus was born in 6BC and was taken to Egypt before Herod died and returned to Judea soon after Herod died. It doesn't matter which Herod was ruling at the time it only matters that the same Herod was referenced in the story of Jesus birth and first couple of years. Jesus was born nine months after the Holy conception, if He was not then the rest of His life and history would not mesh which it does.  

GC

You're talking about Matthew's Jesus who was clearly born under the reign of Herod the Great, since the "slaughter of the innocents" happened on his order in a story lifted right from Moses. Jesus' family fled to Egypt and then later came to settle in Nazareth. 

Luke's Jesus followed a different story. Mary came to Bethlehem for the census and gave birth there. Luke specifies that she immediately returned to Nazareth with no trip to Egypt (see Luke chapter 2). This census couldn't have happened sooner than 6 CE because Judea wasn't a province of Rome until that time. Also, Luke refers to Antipas as "the Tetrarch" not "king of Judea" (see Luke chapter 9:7). Luke also places the birth of Jesus when Quirinius was governor of Syria, which didn't begin until 6 CE.

The math doesn't work out because the tale about the census was a post hoc addition so that Jesus of Nazareth could be born in Bethlehem in order to fulfil certain prophecies. The Romans didn't conduct censuses by uprooting the population. That makes no sense whatsoever. The whole point of a census is to figure out how many people are living where, not wherever they were born.

[DeistPaladin]

The math doesn't work out because the tale about the census was a post hoc addition so that Jesus of Nazareth could be born in Bethlehem in order to fulfil certain prophecies. The Romans didn't conduct censuses by uprooting the population. That makes no sense whatsoever. The whole point of a census is to figure out how many people are living where, not wherever they were born.

Agreed but my point was the Gospels of Luke and Matthew are on two different timelines and can't be reconciled with each other.