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RE: Damned Catholics
December 2, 2018 at 6:16 pm
(November 30, 2018 at 11:28 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: (November 30, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Within the first minute and a half he is treating a document which says
as "historically reliable." Give me a break. You are not a primitive goat herder. What do you think would happen if a "star" did that. Or, is that where you start making excuses for your gospels in the customary manner of apologetics?
Damn boy at least watch more than half a minute before you jump to conclusions
No, I have to point out the incredible fuckups as I see them. I'm sure there are plenty more and I'll get back to it as soon as I have time. Be warned, I will comment on each fuckup in turn.
It took me six hours to get through Atwill's Caesar's Messiah video because of all the shoddy history that moron trotted out!
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 9:21 am
(November 30, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: The Catholic Church has a severe shortage of priests. There is like 1 Catholic priest for every 3.5 thousand Catholics. There has never been such a disparity in Catholic history.
The Church acts like its a government and has a massive bureaucracy. People are turned off by that kind of religion. The historic Jesus of Nazareth was a radical, apocalyptic preacher, living on the margins of society. The Sadducees of his day are comparable to the Catholic bishops. Now I know why many Catholics are leaving that church, they see a major discrepancy between the church and the original Jesus movement.
The "real" Jesus was a figment of Saul of Tarsus' imagination.
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 9:23 am
(December 3, 2018 at 9:21 am)Wololo Wrote: (November 30, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: The Catholic Church has a severe shortage of priests. There is like 1 Catholic priest for every 3.5 thousand Catholics. There has never been such a disparity in Catholic history.
The Church acts like its a government and has a massive bureaucracy. People are turned off by that kind of religion. The historic Jesus of Nazareth was a radical, apocalyptic preacher, living on the margins of society. The Sadducees of his day are comparable to the Catholic bishops. Now I know why many Catholics are leaving that church, they see a major discrepancy between the church and the original Jesus movement.
The "real" Jesus was a figment of Saul of Tarsus' imagination.
Mythicism is a myth
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 12:23 pm
But I bet you think Zeus was a myth, right? Your boy is "special" though.
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 12:28 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 12:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But I bet you think Zeus was a myth, right? Your boy is "special" though.
You know any legit historians that say Zeus was a historical person?
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 12:30 pm
Nope. And the ones who make excuses for jesus never seem to get past the fucking bible for "evidence." Why is that?
All religion is bullshit son.
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 12:31 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 12:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Nope. And the ones who make excuses for jesus never seem to get past the fucking bible for "evidence." Why is that?
All religion is bullshit son.
It's not about religion. It's about history. No serious historian in the field doubts the historical existence of Jesus of Nazareth.
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 12:32 pm
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(December 3, 2018 at 12:28 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 3, 2018 at 12:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But I bet you think Zeus was a myth, right? Your boy is "special" though.
You know any legit historians that say Zeus was a historical person?
There used to be (kindof still are), won't surprise you to find that they were greeks, I bet. The notion that our myths and legends or mythical or legendary heroes have a historical basis is actually named after a mythographer that proposed this centuries back. Euhemerus. Euhemerism.
Quote:Euhemerus argued that Zeus was a mortal king who died on Crete, and that his tomb could still be found there with the inscription bearing his name.[9] This claim however did not originate with Euhemerus, as the general sentiment of Crete during the time of Epimenides of Knossos (c. 600 BC) was that Zeus was buried somewhere in Crete. For this reason, the Cretans were often considered atheists, and Epimenides called them all liars (see Epimenides paradox). Callimachus, an opponent of Euhemerus' views on mythology, argued that Zeus' Cretan tomb was fabricated, and that he was eternal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euhemerism
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 12:33 pm
It's also a mistake to compare Semitic religions to pagan mythology. Semitic religions are based off historical human figures known as Prophets, and actual kings that ruled, from Saul, David and Solomon to Herod Antipas.
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RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 12:41 pm
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Why, why is it a mistake, lol? Much of the semetic religions -are- pagan mythologies. Those kings and prophets you just mentioned are legendary..at best. That significant mythmaking has occurred in the case of their persons is also true, even if those characters are legendary rather than mythical in the first place.
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