(January 29, 2019 at 11:17 am)tackattack Wrote: Do you think Trump's ego would overcome his stubbornness and he might resign so he can to a nixon-esque speech?

Unless it can be pounded into his thick fucking skull that he's going to go to prison, he won't resign.  However, I'm optimistic that the requisite pounding will take place.  As things stand now, Trump stands a fair chance of losing to a Democrat in two years.  If he's indicted, a Democrat is unlikely to pardon him.  His best chance of avoiding prison will be to resign once articles of impeachment are drawn up, but before he's convicted in the Senate (which is looking more and more likely) and to be pardoned by Pence.

And - naturally - much depends on what Mr. Mueller has to say.

Boru

(January 30, 2019 at 7:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 29, 2019 at 11:17 am)tackattack Wrote: Do you think Trump's ego would overcome his stubbornness and he might resign so he can to a nixon-esque speech?

Unless it can be pounded into his thick fucking skull that he's going to go to prison, he won't resign.  However, I'm optimistic that the requisite pounding will take place.  As things stand now, Trump stands a fair chance of losing to a Democrat in two years.  If he's indicted, a Democrat is unlikely to pardon him.  His best chance of avoiding prison will be to resign once articles of impeachment are drawn up, but before he's convicted in the Senate (which is looking more and more likely) and to be pardoned by Pence.

And - naturally - much depends on what Mr. Mueller has to say.

Boru

I tend to agree, but I do warn dems not to underestimate him, we did that once already.

I'd say the longer Russia and Mueller stay in the news, the worse of he is with swing states. And this shutdown will not be forgotten either. But even with that dems cant afford to pick a stiff nominee or one with baggage. I hate to say it, as much as I loved Hillary, she didn't translate well and she had lots of baggage.

Outside nailing 45 like Nixon, the only other way he might step down, would be if on or a couple of his children are indicted.

(January 29, 2019 at 1:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(January 29, 2019 at 11:26 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Hell has officially frozen over.  

What are you babbling about?

We agree on something.

Do you want pence that's how you get pence. I say let Trump be here in office till 2020
i doubt he is going to run for a second term in office. And pence is so universally disliked
that he wouldn't run for president.

(January 27, 2019 at 9:58 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I dunno. If the ( D ),s have a good candidate - I'd vote for them.

If they're going to find one, they'd better get on the damned stick.

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(January 27, 2019 at 10:07 am)Brian37 Wrote: The democrats are weak? HA ha ha ha ha. This is cute.

The democrats have become like a herd of cats batting around a catnip mouse.
I guess that could be considered cute.  It's also disorganized and lame -- ie., weak.

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(January 27, 2019 at 11:06 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Hillary got 2,868,686 more votes than Trump and, due to the ridiculous Electoral College system, she lost. The 20th largest margin of difference in popular votes between major party candidates, and she still fucking lost.

That should tell you something.  The people don't get to select the president; the existing power structure selects the president.  Your "choice", really, is Republican, or Republican-lite, and it will be made for you.

Of course, even the existing power structure gets bit on the ass now and then, and ends up with "bat-shit crazy".
But sheer inertia protects most of them from any major fallout, until they install the next edition.

I don't mean to sound rude, but I am so fucking tired of this! Pence would obviously be better than Trump in a million ways! Pence has some questionable beliefs, but at least under him he'd just be like another Bush. He's a sane human being, unlike Trump. Not saying I agree with his beliefs but still.