(March 31, 2019 at 11:54 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 9:10 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Yes - I do have a bunch of clips.


They each hold six 10 mm rounds, and fit in my S&W model 610 - a 10 mm revolver. They provide extremely fast reloading. Jerry Miculek can do it ( with a .45 ACP S&W model 625) firing 12 shots in 2.9 seconds.

I also have a bunch of magazine - for my semi autos. ( And one for my Swiss K31 straight pull bolt action rifle)


If you' re going to continue to pretend to be knowledgeable about guns - you should go take a class or something - and get the lingo right.

Why? Your inane attempts at lecturing are sufficient for this instance.

Just like worship of a god or holy book, the hope with gun worshipers is that if they can get you lost in the details, it will distract everyone from the elephant in the room. So just talk about model types, like verses in a holy book, cherry pick, so you don't have to face the fact that we still have a firearm violence epidemic. Unlike OLB, you own firearms too, but you are not so blind as to ignore we do have a problem.

(March 31, 2019 at 12:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 11:54 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Why? Your inane attempts at lecturing are sufficient for this instance.

Just like worship of a god or holy book, the hope with gun worshipers is that if they can get you lost in the details, it will distract everyone from the elephant in the room. So just talk about model types, like verses in a holy book, cherry pick, so you don't have to face the fact that we still have a firearm violence epidemic. Unlike OLB, you own firearms too, but you are not so blind as to ignore we do have a problem.

Actually there is something to be said ho many times have I been told by a Christian

"You can't criticize the bible because you don't know the terms "

Now apply that to the Gun Cult 

"You can't talk about guns because you don't know the terms "

(March 31, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 12:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Just like worship of a god or holy book, the hope with gun worshipers is that if they can get you lost in the details, it will distract everyone from the elephant in the room. So just talk about model types, like verses in a holy book, cherry pick, so you don't have to face the fact that we still have a firearm violence epidemic. Unlike OLB, you own firearms too, but you are not so blind as to ignore we do have a problem.

Actually there is something to be said ho many times have I been told by a Christian

"You can't criticize the bible because you don't the terms "

Now apply that to the Gun Cult 

"You can't talk about guns because you don't know the terms "

I think that xians said that to you zero times, and you just now imagined that they said that to you many times, and you really believe it.

(March 31, 2019 at 3:34 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Amarok Wrote: Actually there is something to be said ho many times have I been told by a Christian

"You can't criticize the bible because you don't the terms "

Now apply that to the Gun Cult 

"You can't talk about guns because you don't know the terms "

I think that xians said that to you zero times, and you just now imagined that they said that to you many times, and you really believe it.

Nope it a well established apologist meme . But nice try 

(March 31, 2019 at 3:48 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 3:34 pm)Yonadav Wrote: I think that xians said that to you zero times, and you just now imagined that they said that to you many times, and you really believe it.

Nope it a well established apologist meme . But nice try 

Can you give me some examples of terms that you didn't understand that supposedly prevented you from understanding the bible?

(March 31, 2019 at 4:03 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 3:48 pm)Amarok Wrote: Nope it a well established apologist meme . But nice try 

Can you give me some examples of terms that you didn't understand that supposedly prevented you from understanding the bible?

What the hell are talking about ?

We've got apologists on the boards pulling that shit right now, lol.

(March 31, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 12:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Just like worship of a god or holy book, the hope with gun worshipers is that if they can get you lost in the details, it will distract everyone from the elephant in the room. So just talk about model types, like verses in a holy book, cherry pick, so you don't have to face the fact that we still have a firearm violence epidemic. Unlike OLB, you own firearms too, but you are not so blind as to ignore we do have a problem.

Actually there is something to be said ho many times have I been told by a Christian

"You can't criticize the bible because you don't know the terms "

Now apply that to the Gun Cult 

"You can't talk about guns because you don't know the terms "

Perfect distraction. And funny how the "terms" are like trying to nail jello to the wall. Meanwhile an average of 100 of our fellow citizens die every day because of this bullshit argument.

It is also important to point out the difference between a gun owner and a gun worshiper.

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(March 31, 2019 at 3:34 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Amarok Wrote: Actually there is something to be said ho many times have I been told by a Christian

"You can't criticize the bible because you don't the terms "

Now apply that to the Gun Cult 

"You can't talk about guns because you don't know the terms "

I think that xians said that to you zero times, and you just now imagined that they said that to you many times, and you really believe it.

Your kidding me right? You really think this is about one religion?

I have been debating religion online almost on a daily basis since 2001, and not just one religion. 

I have heard, "What would you know" from Christians, and Muslims and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus and many others.

I have run into plenty of theists who want to play football, but when  your offense or defense out plays them, they say "You cant do that."

If a theist wants to put forth an argument, we are not saying they cant, but they also cannot bitch if we cause them the discomfort of cognitive dissonance. 

Theist do get upset when you challenge their social norms. And do insist you have no right to counter their claims since you are not a follower. And again, that is not one religion, but every religion has individual members who insist you have no right to challenge them since you are not a follower.

I know exactly what Amrok means, and I agree.  Humans fear their social norms being questioned.

While I value human rights, I value facts and logic as much. I may like someone who holds a religious belief, but I am also not going to sugar coat what I think of bad logic.

Don't get on the playing field if you don't want the competition. It is not about death or revenge for me. But if you make a claim, I am going to challenge it and counter it.

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If I have never sold Amway, does that mean I cant see that it is simply a franchise scheme where only a few make money and everyone else looses money? Amway is legal, but I do not buy that it is moral. Marketing unfortunately mostly relies on emotion, the sell of fear and the sell of quick fixes and the sell of utopias, and religion is the master of that. Business also does that.  Neither are really practical other than they help religion and business keep power. 

I am under no illusions that you can get rid of business or religion. But humans certainly can do better to weed out the crap.

(March 31, 2019 at 5:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: We've got apologists on the boards pulling that shit right now, lol.

So tell me what some of these terms are.

(March 31, 2019 at 4:03 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(March 31, 2019 at 3:48 pm)Amarok Wrote: Nope it a well established apologist meme . But nice try 

Can you give me some examples of terms that you didn't understand that supposedly prevented you from understanding the bible?

Not the point..

Look at it like this.

The Dallas Cowboys invite the Washington Redskins to play in Dallas.

As soon as the Skins get there, and the coin is flipped, the Cowboys bitch that the Skins won the toss.

If you are on the same field the ball is available to both teams. 

What atheists get all the time is as soon as you start questioning, they want to move the goal posts.

I do not need to read the bible to know the earth was not made in six days. I do not need to read the bible to know there is no such thing as a magic baby with super powers. 

Just like you don't need a belief in Thor to explain why lightening happens.

But if you are invited to a rigged casino certainly you are going to object to bad logic.

Real reffing is not when you set the rules to rig the game to your agenda.

Real reffing is when the conditions change and you change with them.

Religion does not adapt to facts, religion adapts to stay relevant even when science has passed it by.