Calling evil lunacy "just an opinion" is textbook evil lunatic shit, fwiw. Tie some damsel to the tracks, and when somebody points out that this is some pretty dark nutter shit, nonchalantly respond with "well, that's just your opinion".

(May 25, 2020 at 11:05 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Get the feeling we're watching a 30 car pile up in real time....

Huh?

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(May 25, 2020 at 11:27 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Calling evil lunacy "just an opinion" is textbook evil lunatic shit, fwiw.  Tie some damsel to the tracks, and when somebody points out that this is some pretty dark nutter shit, nonchalantly respond with "well, that's just your opinion".

So what do you want to call it?

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(May 24, 2020 at 10:20 pm)brewer Wrote:

(May 24, 2020 at 8:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: How do you know him??

Biblically?

That too.  If you can.  Otherwise you will have to wait on God.

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(May 24, 2020 at 11:23 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(May 24, 2020 at 8:30 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Ask him why he got fired from his job in childcare.

Does it have to do with this?

(May 24, 2020 at 7:39 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You think babies are good?

Quote:Ask him why he got fired from his job in childcare.

You think I had a "job" in childcare?

And I got fired?

I never remembered i had one there.  But of course.  "Sacrosanct" is catching up with you again.

Quote:Does it have to do with this?

Good question.  Let us wait and see.

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(May 25, 2020 at 10:39 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: NRRRG it is *dancing* for the *campers* believe in *tiny bubbles* but Orz aren't *tiny bubbles* but fingers from *the playground*

Yeah, no loaded language in that post at all! /sarcasm

:grabs popcorn:

Huh?

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(May 24, 2020 at 8:01 am)brewer Wrote:

(May 24, 2020 at 7:39 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

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Love is creepy to you?  Why?


Why?


We are in a discussion.  So you have your opportunity to do it.

Not love itself, your version of love. The creep is you.

Your delusional because you use a fantasy creature to justify your obsession with your version of love.

I have no desire to discuss your delusion, I've read your material, you lack insight and use the delusion to justify and manipulate.

Quote:Not love itself, your version of love.

So what is your "good" version vs my "bad" version?

Quote:The creep is you.

Huh?  No evidence?   Just your opinion again.  Want to get an opinion up to par with a Judgment?

Quote:Your delusional because you use a fantasy creature to justify your obsession with your version of love.

You are talking right over everybody's heads.  You will need to link us if you want to use anything outside of this forum.  But of course it might not work because i can not link.  But it might be allowed because it will be quite obvious why I am linking too.

Quote:I have no desire to discuss your delusion, I've read your material, you lack insight and use the delusion to justify and manipulate.

Seems you are "down" already? 

You met with "too much Love"?

It is a bit selfish you know.  Just dropping some "interesting" stuff and not trying to take every body with you.  And me being here to help you and all.  Nope.  You will have to reconsider.  Seems you have an obligation to all.  Just like Abaddon.  We can make it an interesting topic you know?

@Johanabrahams

So...are you going to demonstrate your god, or just preach to us?

(May 24, 2020 at 7:04 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I have no case to make to you. I don’t believe he exists. How do you know you know him?

Quote:I have no case to make to you. I don’t believe he exists.

Yep.  I know.

Quote:How do you know you know him?

I know!

This might be a strange answer to you.  But if I asked you how do you "know you know your mother" then you will understand why I said it.  I know I know Him because I live with Him.  I don't know everything yet as you might also feel that you don't know everything yet of your mother. But you surely know you know her.

Now for you to see the Truth in this would have been better to live with me and see my "strange" behavior.  Because i am living with one you can not see.  And He has a very definite influence in my actions.  So those living with me have to accept this "strange behavior".  So depending on what the effect of this behavior is on them they accept that this God is "good" or bad.  Where I am now the community where i live in accepts me totally because of the "Good" they experience.

If John Waters and Vincent Price could conceive of a child...

(May 25, 2020 at 12:21 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(May 24, 2020 at 7:04 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I have no case to make to you. I don’t believe he exists. How do you know you know him?

Quote:I have no case to make to you. I don’t believe he exists.

Yep.  I know.

Quote:How do you know you know him?

I know!

This might be a strange answer to you.  But if I asked you how do you "know you know your mother" then you will understand why I said it.

I can demonstrate that my mother exists, and I can demonstrate that I know her. You can’t do either with god. Further, saying “I just know” is a bald assertion that can be made about any god; even mutually exclusive ones. I just know Allah is real. How do we figure out who is correct?

Quote:I know I know Him because I live with Him.

Demonstrate it.

Quote:Now for you to see the Truth in this would have been better to live with me and see my "strange" behavior.  Because i am living with one you can not see.  And He has a very definite influence in my actions.  So those living with me have to accept this "strange behavior".  So depending on what the effect of this behavior is on them they accept that this God is "good" or bad.  Where I am now the community where i live in accepts me totally because of the "Good" they experience.

And what strange behavior would that be, exactly?

(May 25, 2020 at 12:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Johanabrahams

So...are you going to demonstrate your god, or just preach to us?

Preaching is awful.   Pastors ban me for these words.  For Lovingly helping them to stop their preaching.  You will just have to accept them because i am still in the 30 day period and I can not link you to actual cases to prove my point.    But I do think if you ask me for a link it will be tolerated.  So you are welcome.  But now in the absence of the "link" I can give you this.  I will for instance asked them to show me one preach of Jesus.  And then they get angry and I am out of the door.  For Lovingly correcting them, not with an opinion, but a case.  And the Power of the "case" that lifts it up to the level of a Judgment gets me the ban.

Mods  usually do it when I interfere with their "bossiness".   Let me use an example again.    If I preach and if the mod is wise then the mod will just leave me to preach and see how everybody disappear and leave me to preach on my own.  And then I will obviously just disappear too.  Creeping out at the back door.  Or say sorry and improve.  That is ruling in the Love and Wisdom of God.   If the mod is not wise then the mod will ban me of course.  This happens mostly because of their lack in Love and Wisdom going with it.  An they ban me for Lovingly assisting them in their "loveless job".  Wanting to help them to be part of their family that they are ruling over.  While they should have enjoyed Family Love and not ruling authority.

So I am not into preaching.  This is not the reason for my "bans".   I am sure Abaddon will agree with me.  I was never banned for "preaching".  But for Loving.  And seeing that he knows about the places of my bans he can of course just link us.  But of course he will try and cover up and will either not do it with excuses or link to wrong parts in the debating to prove his point.  Maybe making use of the opportunity that i can not link to "win" his case.

So this boils down to "demonstrating".

(May 25, 2020 at 12:47 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(May 25, 2020 at 12:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Johanabrahams

So...are you going to demonstrate your god, or just preach to us?

Preaching is awful.   Pastors ban me for these words.  For Lovingly helping them to stop their preaching.  You will just have to accept them because i am still in the 30 day period and I can not link you to actual cases to prove my point.    But I do think if you ask me for a link it will be tolerated.  So you are welcome.  But now in the absence of the "link" I can give you this.  I will for instance asked them to show me one preach of Jesus.  And then they get angry and I am out of the door.  For Lovingly correcting them, not with an opinion, but a case.  And the Power of the "case" that lifts it up to the level of a Judgment gets me the ban.

Mods  usually do it when I interfere with their "bossiness".   Let me use an example again.    If I preach and if the mod is wise then the mod will just leave me to preach and see how everybody disappear and leave me to preach on my own.  And then I will obviously just disappear too.  Creeping out at the back door.  Or say sorry and improve.  That is ruling in the Love and Wisdom of God.   If the mod is not wise then the mod will ban me of course.  This happens mostly because of their lack in Love and Wisdom going with it.  An they ban me for Lovingly assisting them in their "loveless job".  Wanting to help them to be part of their family that they are ruling over.  While they should have enjoyed Family Love and not ruling authority.

So I am not into preaching.  This is not the reason for my "bans".   I am sure Abaddon will agree with me.  I was never banned for "preaching".  But for Loving.  And seeing that he knows about the places of my bans he can of course just link us.  But of course he will try and cover up and will either not do it with excuses or link to wrong parts in the debating to prove his point.  Maybe making use of the opportunity that i can not link to "win" his case.

So this boils down to "demonstrating".

I’m asking you to make a well-reasoned and evidentially supported case for the existence of your god. Are you going to do that or not?

(May 25, 2020 at 12:35 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(May 25, 2020 at 12:21 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: Yep.  I know.


I know!

This might be a strange answer to you.  But if I asked you how do you "know you know your mother" then you will understand why I said it.

I can demonstrate that my mother exists, and I can demonstrate that I know her. You can’t do either with god. Further, saying “I just know” is a bald assertion that can be made about any god; even mutually exclusive ones. I just know Allah is real. How do we figure out who is correct?

Quote:I know I know Him because I live with Him.

Demonstrate it.

Quote:Now for you to see the Truth in this would have been better to live with me and see my "strange" behavior.  Because i am living with one you can not see.  And He has a very definite influence in my actions.  So those living with me have to accept this "strange behavior".  So depending on what the effect of this behavior is on them they accept that this God is "good" or bad.  Where I am now the community where i live in accepts me totally because of the "Good" they experience.

And what strange behavior would that be, exactly?

Quote:I can demonstrate that my mother exists, and I can demonstrate that I know her.

Ok.  So how will you do that?

Quote:You can’t do either with god.

You are very sure.  But before i had my chance? 

Wisdom waits patiently.  But Wisdom and Patience is a Characteristic that only God has.  And God gives His blessed Life to His Children to be what He is.  That is just the Love of A God that calls Himself Our Father.  To give who and what He is to His Children to be.

Quote:Further, saying “I just know” is a bald assertion that can be made about any god; even mutually exclusive ones. I just know Allah is real. How do we figure out who is correct?

Yep.  i could have linked you now to conversations with them.  Where you will actually see that both of us are correct.  They just know less than we do.  They do not believe that their "Almighty" is the Father I just told you about.  To them this is "blasphemy".  You will remember that this was also the reason why the Jews killed Jesus.  For saying God is now revealed as our Father.  Where we become born of Him and exactly the same as Him. 

Both of these groups have the same God as Christians.  They just know less.  And this is revealed when you ask them if their God loves them.  They will immediately say yes.  And when you ask them how they experience it then you will see the lack of the Love of the Father.

And this mentioning of the lack in their knowledge of their God immediately gets you banned too.  God calls this His Babies.  He is their Father but they just don't know it.    As it is the case for any baby.  Human babies too.  They don't know their father.  They don't know what father stands for.  And they don't know how to properly relate to their father.  They will learn eventually as they grow older.

Quote:Demonstrate it.  And what strange behavior would that be, exactly?

If you were sitting next to your mother and somebody else.  That person would accept your behavior as result of being in a Relationship with your Mother.  Maybe the time you were dating your behavior would be different with your mother in your presence then when you were totally alone.  So telling the person you were dating that your mother is the reason for your behavior when she is "not seen" can only be believed when that person knows you very well. As well as your mother.   The same for me.  Those who know me well understand the behavior that comes from God as my Father that influences my behavior.  If they also know God as their Father.

The problem with me came when God was no longer my Father but became my Husband.  Then my behavior changed.  And likewise in the times of Jesus those with the behavior of having God as their Father was a problem to those that didn't have that knowledge.  They only know God as their God and not their Father.  This change in me is difficult for the Children of God to grasp and they ban me just as they killed Jesus.  Only killing is no longer allowed.  But if this happened many years ago with me then i am sure I would have been killed too. 

The big persecution that Abaddon will take us in (if allowed) came when God became my Husband 20 years ago.  Meaning I had to introduce myself all over again.  As the Mother of God's Children.  As the Mother of all.  I didn't know how to do that.   So God did it. 

I had to act against corporal punishment.  And as corporal punishment was "from God" i was labelled as mad or full of devils.  On top of that I had to introduce God's Way of discipline.  Which is Wisdom done in Love.  Again I had to act it out.  And everyone just retaliated.   Specially the "clergy".  Because they were the "important" ones that knows everything of God.  Suddenly they were wrong.  And everybody was up in arms against me.  For 20 years now.  But suffering the negative consequences of their actions.  Because i am assaulted, cursed, they tried to certify me, put me in prison get court orders against me and ban me from their town.   I just turn the other cheek and accept all.  Depending on God to protect me and eventually open their eyes.  Because only a Mother can change Lives for the better. Lives without corporal punishment. With the better option of disciplining in Love and Wisdom. And only a Mother can discipline in Love and Wisdom.  To be the Example to Her Children. Now after 20 years I am told to start telling everybody who i actually am.

That is God's Patience in action.

Of course their is much more.   As this is just the tip of the iceberg.   But i am getting tired now.   It is now my sleeping time.  It is 20h00 here in South Africa.  And it is enough for now also.  An elephant can not be eaten in one day.

Evil lunacy seems like a good term for...evil lunacy.

Anyway, to the above.

Jews didn't kill jesus.

Jews and christians emphatically do not worship the same god. You have a borrowed ladder, which isn't the same thing at all. Go Ask A Jew, they'll tell you all about how the christian god is antithetical to the jewish god...they've been doing it forever. In the context of the borrowed ladder, that;s (part of) why christians, killed jews. Straight up Marla Singer business. One lie exposes another, it's enough to keep nerves raw and lead to bad decisions.

To whatever extent christian orthodoxy is up against you, it isn't because you've found some truth that they want to hide, it's because religious institutions aggressively try to rid themselves of Marlas.