(May 28, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 12:27 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote: Hey Johanabrahams.

Are you still claming to be both God and God's wife?

Are you still asking people to call you "Mother?"

Are you still stalking your ex-wife and trying to get people to harass her online?

Are you still working in an unlicensed bar?

Are you still bitter about the town that took out restraining orders against you for standing on street corners screaming about beating people with a club?

Are you still trying to get personal information about people and stalking them elsewhere?

Is it still the case that the only one of your kids who still talks to you is the alcoholic who buys cheap booze at the unlicensed bar you work at?

Did you ever face trial for the accusations of child abuse that were made against you and got you kicked out of a daycare?

Are you serious? Where did you find out about that stuff?

He used to post on the International Skeptics Forum a few years ago. He was eventually banned.

(May 28, 2020 at 1:52 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Are you serious? Where did you find out about that stuff?

He used to post on the International Skeptics Forum a few years ago. He was eventually banned.

I was the one that snagged the contact list. All of the things mentioned are actual events. When he was threatening to beat people with a club he was at the time actually carrying one.

At one point he was sent for compulsory psychiatric treatment. He dropped it.

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(May 28, 2020 at 5:00 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

Quote:You are a wife beating, child abusing (including your own and others), violent criminal who needs to be stopped.

Huh?

Any evidence for this?

Yes.

First, on the other site you told us so.
Second, I got witness testimony, did you forget that?
Third, I obtained the court judgment, did you forget that too?

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(May 28, 2020 at 3:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(May 26, 2020 at 12:07 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Wow. You simply made that up.

For the record, I first encountered this wingnut in 2017.

I was divorced in 2010.

He just can't help himself pointlessly lying.

Quote:Wow. You simply made that up.

Let's see.

Quote:For the record, I first encountered this wingnut in 2017.

I was divorced in 2010.

Oops!   You are divorced!

Quote:He just can't help himself pointlessly lying.

And how do I know about your "divorce"?

Duh. Because you read it on the other site, you moron. It's not exactly a state secret, is it?

Besides, you could have merely guessed with a 50/50 chance of being right.

Also, unlike you, I am not a crazy ex-wife stalker. I didn't contest it like you did. I wanted it. I am glad to be rid of the woman and haven't ever been happier.

Even the Covid crisis hasn't affected me. Out on the empty road all day in the fresh air and sunshine. Meeting people who are grateful that you turned up or even a different friendly face to talk to. I make plenty of money.

I have a nice home to return to, furnished an decorated to my taste upon which I pay no rent, nor mortgage because I own it. In fact, I have no debt at all, not even credit card debt.

So what the fuck is this shit?

(May 28, 2020 at 5:00 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Yep.  From your side I am a "freak" and some other things too.  But from my side you are my Son.  Which i am helping through your crisis.  And thus the evidence is there.

So what crisis would that be?

ETA: I think it is projection. My divorce was a happy release, but for you, it was a crisis so you project that unto others. Simple projection.

(May 24, 2020 at 5:58 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

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(May 23, 2020 at 3:02 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I've looking at Johanabrahams fb page. He is a real kook!

Thanks.  That seems like you really want to know me for the sake of Love. First I would like to know more about why you say I am a "real kook"?  And secondly.  Can i look at yours too?

Fuck off you delusional twit. You are the perfect example of why I am anonymous on this forum! I feel sorry for those that come into contact with you. One day you will no longer exist. You don't have the talent to start a successful cult, so luckily the harm you spread will cease spreading when you cease.

(May 28, 2020 at 3:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

Quote:We who? Or are you using the "Royal We" here?

You also.

Telling me what I know is impolite. A bit like picking your nose and eating it.

Quote:

Quote:Who?

The Person the churches believe exists.

Which churches? They all seem to believe in different People. They don't seem entirely trustworthy.

Quote:

Quote:Kindly demonstrate.

I am busy.   Maybe you should grab a post and comment on it?

So busy that you can hang around and preach at the atheists. What other wonderful qualities do you possess? Oh well, if you can't even be bothered to describe your imaginary friend then it's going to look even more pointless than usual.

(May 28, 2020 at 6:21 pm)chimp3 Wrote: You are the perfect example of why I am anonymous on this forum! I feel sorry for those that come into contact with you.

Based on what I know about his past that is an exceedingly wise reaction to him.

(May 29, 2020 at 12:38 am)Paleophyte Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 3:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You also.

Telling me what I know is impolite. A bit like picking your nose and eating it.

Quote:The Person the churches believe exists.

Which churches? They all seem to believe in different People. They don't seem entirely trustworthy.

Quote:I am busy.   Maybe you should grab a post and comment on it?

So busy that you can hang around and preach at the atheists. What other wonderful qualities do you possess? Oh well, if you can't even be bothered to describe your imaginary friend then it's going to look even more pointless than usual.

Quote:Telling me what I know is impolite. A bit like picking your nose and eating it.

Nope.  this is far from it.

Quote:Which churches? They all seem to believe in different People. They don't seem entirely trustworthy.

I can see you are totally unsure of this.

Quote:So busy that you can hang around and preach at the atheists.

I said i am busy answering all that everybody is asking.  You can just jump in.

Quote:What other wonderful qualities do you possess?

You get two sets.  Those of the humans that are not so wonderful.  And then you get God's qualities that are.

Quote:Oh well, if you can't even be bothered to describe your imaginary friend then it's going to look even more pointless than usual.

I never said this.   What i actually said is that there is a lot said already.  And you can just built on it without starting from the beginning again.  This will be boring to those that are looking for the next interesting piece.  Seems a bit selfish.  Don't you think?

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(May 29, 2020 at 4:33 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 6:21 pm)chimp3 Wrote: You are the perfect example of why I am anonymous on this forum! I feel sorry for those that come into contact with you.

Based on what I know about his past that is an exceedingly wise reaction to him.

You will have to tell us.  We all are eager to hear from you.

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(May 28, 2020 at 6:21 pm)chimp3 Wrote:

(May 24, 2020 at 5:58 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

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Thanks.  That seems like you really want to know me for the sake of Love. First I would like to know more about why you say I am a "real kook"?  And secondly.  Can i look at yours too?

Fuck off you delusional twit. You are the perfect example of why I am anonymous on this forum! I feel sorry for those that come into contact with you. One day you will no longer exist. You don't have the talent to start a successful cult, so luckily the harm you spread will cease spreading when you cease.

Quote:Fuck off you delusional twit.

Name calling only has its effects on humans.  I am not one of them.  And you will see that it is not worth much.  So thinking it is worth something makes you the "delusional" one?

Quote:You are the perfect example of why I am anonymous on this forum!

Aah!  This is better.  Something worth something.  Something we can work on.  Try to keep it in this lane and far from your "delusional" stuff.    Your delusional "name calling" you can try on Abaddon.  He is also in that lane.  

Going incocnito is hiding from something.  Living in fear.  Killing Relationships for you.  Fear is a killer.  So let us help you with that.  Seems it is more of your "delusional" attitude messing with your life.

Quote:I feel sorry for those that come into contact with you.

They seems to disagree.  But you are backbiting now.  You should say that where they are.  In front of them.  But of course your "fear" gives you "hiding live".  Sneaking around.   You better get into the door.  First of all it is sending me a "friend request".  And you will learn the Life in Love that is far Greater than "sneaking around" on my Facebook Page.

Quote:One day you will no longer exist.

This comes now from "sneaking around".  You never saw.  It is not about me.  It is about them.  It is about giving others a Life that will exist for ever for themselves.  

Quote:You don't have the talent to start a successful cult,

It is evil to start a cult.  There are many.  I was a Dutch Reformed Reverend in one of them.  Had a good live too.  Lots of money and fame.  But in the end it is just that.  A "cult".

Quote:so luckily the harm you spread will cease spreading when you cease.

Another miss.  I am creating a Better Life for others.  To exist themselves.

You should stop sneaking around on my Page.  Get in by the door.  Fear is just messing up your life for you.  You can give it up for Love.  Being a man of Relationships and not somebody sneaking around in the darkness.  You can take a look at the Atheistic Republic.  I can not link you.  And see for yourself how I was banned there for helping them into this Realm.  Banned by fear of getting into the Love Relationships of God.

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(May 28, 2020 at 2:40 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 1:52 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote: He used to post on the International Skeptics Forum a few years ago. He was eventually banned.

I was the one that snagged the contact list. All of the things mentioned are actual events. When he was threatening to beat people with a club he was at the time actually carrying one.

At one point he was sent for compulsory psychiatric treatment. He dropped it.

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(May 28, 2020 at 5:00 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Huh?

Any evidence for this?

Yes.

First, on the other site you told us so.
Second, I got witness testimony, did you forget that?
Third, I obtained the court judgment, did you forget that too?

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(May 28, 2020 at 3:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Let's see.



Oops!   You are divorced!



And how do I know about your "divorce"?

Duh. Because you read it on the other site, you moron. It's not exactly a state secret, is it?

Besides, you could have merely guessed with a 50/50 chance of being right.

Also, unlike you, I am not a crazy ex-wife stalker. I didn't contest it like you did. I wanted it. I am glad to be rid of the woman and haven't ever been happier.

Even the Covid crisis hasn't affected me. Out on the empty road all day in the fresh air and sunshine. Meeting people who are grateful that you turned up or even  a different friendly face to talk to. I make plenty of money.

I have a nice home to return to, furnished an decorated to my taste upon which I pay no rent, nor mortgage because I own it. In fact, I have no debt at all, not even credit card debt.

So what the fuck is this shit?

(May 28, 2020 at 5:00 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Yep.  From your side I am a "freak" and some other things too.  But from my side you are my Son.  Which i am helping through your crisis.  And thus the evidence is there.

So what crisis would that be?

ETA: I think it is projection. My divorce was a happy release, but for you, it was a crisis so you project that unto others. Simple projection.

Quote:I was the one that snagged the contact list.

Sorry for that.  I didn't mean for you to go about it in an unlawful way.  I gave it to you all.  Right in the open.  But unfortunately the "bosses" there didn't realize there was nothing wrong in doing it because it is done with the consent of all.  Bosses rule in laws and they don't have Love nor Wisdom.  That is the reason for their lack of judgment skills.  So they didn't know that a court case is a public case.

Quote:All of the things mentioned are actual events.

Yep.  It is all true.  It is just the opinions of people misinterpreting that gives problems.

Quote:When he was threatening to beat people with a club he was at the time actually carrying one.

This is a lie.  I don't operate in threats and neither in physical power.  That is from the other side.  As you have still neglected to post the link of an actual event too.  The one in SGU forum under the heading of "Fake court orders".  Where the pastor grabbed me at the throat and ran me against the wall and jacked me up against the wall. All on my throat with his hands. In Shoprite the day before Christmas in the year 2000. And my actions were first trying to help him carry his bags and secondly accepting my death and not resisting and afterwards just a word of Forgiveness to him. 

So try to stick to actual events.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that. That is the "sacrosanct" spirit making you delusional. As evil spirits take over the mind and make you act in that "delusional" way.

Quote:At one point he was sent for compulsory psychiatric treatment. He dropped it.

My home town tried.  They got my mother involved and the doctors.  But they also had to get one outsider doctor.  He didn't want to play along.  So their whole plan of action fell through. 

Again.  Stick to the facts.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that.

Quote:First, on the other site you told us so.
Second, I got witness testimony, did you forget that?
Third, I obtained the court judgment, did you forget that too?

The court judgment was looked at very closely and precisely dissected by an experienced person in the Skeptic Society Forum.  I suggested twice you should look at it.  You still stubbornly refuse.  So please do that.  Because without sticking to the facts you come over as very "delusional".

Quote:Duh. Because you read it on the other site, you moron. It's not exactly a state secret, is it?

Not perfectly true.  You actually told me about it.

Quote:Besides, you could have merely guessed with a 50/50 chance of being right.

You forgot you told me?

Quote:Also, unlike you, I am not a crazy ex-wife stalker. I didn't contest it like you did.

Not totally right again.  Telling my wife she is on the wrong road in siding with court orders against me is not "contesting" a divorce. 

These court orders were against me for revealing their system of child abuse in Die Herberg.  At that stage 20 years ago they were into corporal punishement in Die Herberg. I spoke against it and everybody tried their best to silence me.  Even the churches because they said it is from God.

Quote:I wanted it. I am glad to be rid of the woman and haven't ever been happier.

A divorce is just that.  A broken family.  Nothing to be happy about.

Quote:Even the Covid crisis hasn't affected me. Out on the empty road all day in the fresh air and sunshine. Meeting people who are grateful that you turned up or even  a different friendly face to talk to. I make plenty of money.

Good for you.  

Quote:I have a nice home to return to, furnished an decorated to my taste upon which I pay no rent, nor mortgage because I own it. In fact, I have no debt at all, not even credit card debt.

Good for you.

Quote:So what the fuck is this shit?

So what crisis would that be?

A house without a wife and mother is just that.  A broken family life.  It was at this point in ISF that you got angry at me and started fighting me.  Remember?

Quote:ETA: I think it is projection. My divorce was a happy release, but for you, it was a crisis so you project that unto others. Simple projection.

To me it was something I spoke against.  But I didn't do anything more that warning my wife.  It was my wife's decision and she has to live with the negative consequences.  But I understood her position.  She was threatened by her boss with losing her job if she doesn't' side with the court orders in breaking up our family life.

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(May 28, 2020 at 1:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 6:43 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: That only works on the brain and not the Spirit.   But to try and take me back to a life without Love and struggling again with the evil spirits of human live, like stress, anxiety, fear, jealousy, irritation, impatience, lack of self control, anger etc. is very selfish of you.

God loboto mi . . . . spirit of humans and now I am just Love.  Saved from dead human life in intellectualism only.  Using their intellect for Relationships too in the absence of Love.  God added a New Dimension to my Life that is not in my mind.  It is just your minds trying to fathom God and what He did on me that needs some more "Knowledge".

Huh?

(May 28, 2020 at 12:27 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote:

(May 21, 2020 at 6:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: And maybe we have to conclude that He doesn't exist.

Hey Johanabrahams.

Are you still claming to be both God and God's wife?

Are you still asking people to call you "Mother?"

Are you still stalking your ex-wife and trying to get people to harass her online?

Are you still working in an unlicensed bar?

Are you still bitter about the town that took out restraining orders against you for standing on street corners screaming about beating people with a club?

Are you still trying to get personal information about people and stalking them elsewhere?

Is it still the case that the only one of your kids who still talks to you is the alcoholic who buys cheap booze at the unlicensed bar you work at?

Did you ever face trial for the accusations of child abuse that were made against you and got you kicked out of a daycare?

Quote:Are you still claming to be both God and God's wife?

When you are a Child of God you get born as a Baby God.  And when you are grown up you become the Bride of God and it changes to become the Wife of God.

Quote:Are you still asking people to call you "Mother?"

When you are into a Relationship with someone you will need to know who the person actually is.  I am the Wife of God and give birth to our Child, Jesus.  In this regard i become the Mother of that Child.  It obviously excludes you.   As i know you are Jesus but you don't know it.  And I know i am your Mother but you don't accept it.  I can never force this.  It is up to you to take me or leave me.  Love does not force.  It has to be accepted or rejected.

Quote:Are you still stalking your ex-wife and trying to get people to harass her online?

Nope.  I never did that.  But if people want to have her side of the story they should ask her.  She is online.  This is not stalking.  It is just getting to the bottom of the facts.  Which she is "obliged" to give.  If she doesn't accept her obligation it makes her immoral.  But of course I understand why she is hiding away.  As people in the wrong does that.  Pride makes them do it. 

And I would of course like for her to be free from herself.  Hiding the Truth away and allowing someone else to take the punishment for your wrongs is a killer.

Quote:Are you still working in an unlicensed bar?

That was many years ago.  Where the woman of that house didn't see herself able to get a license.  But after many talking with her and the police helping from their side she eventually agreed that i can assist her in getting that license.  So she is very grateful now.  Because she bought a big house and two luxurious cars and two pickups and are now saving for a luxurious Tavern.  

Quote:Are you still bitter about the town that took out restraining orders against you for standing on street corners screaming about beating people with a club?

Follow the converstation between me and Abaddon in this regard.  It will help a lot with all these wrong assumptions.   It makes you look delusional.

Quote:Are you still trying to get personal information about people and stalking them elsewhere?

I never did this.  But of course it will be easy to get links and show us. 

I do however try and help people to get out of their "incognito" status though.  For their own sake.  Living with fear is a killer.  But there is no force.  Love can not be forced.  But it is misinterpreted by the such as you.   For personal gain.

Quote:Is it still the case that the only one of your kids who still talks to you is the alcoholic who buys cheap booze at the unlicensed bar you work at?

If it was not for your fear you could have asked him.  He is on my Facebook Page.  But they are many now.  I can unfortunately not link you.  You will have to wait for 30 days.  It is the "mods" messing up again.  Like usual.

Quote:Did you ever face trial for the accusations of child abuse that were made against you and got you kicked out of a daycare?

Never. 
It is just your opinion derived from Abaddon's backbiting which he is calling "sacrosanct".  You will find the truth in the Skeptic Society Forum that dissected the "trial" perfectly by an experience law person.  Not influenced by "sacrosanct".


Seems you have a very negative attitude towards me. Misusing your "incognito" to enjoy all your slander. But you are paying a huge price. You have no Real Relationships. You just have your "slander". It is giving such an inferior life. Classified by God as "death". The death life of Adam that he chose in Eden when he chose against Love. As your Mother i forgive you for it all. I am just giving you the opportunity to learn. To get a better Life. In Love towards others. The you will not slander anymore. But use evidence to prove your case for the sake of uplifting the other person.

As in your loveless situation in "incognito" where you don't have to face the consequences of your words you have just "slander" to try and uplift yourself by degrading me. This is really not a good life to live. Because if you live it here you obviously live it in your real live too.

(May 30, 2020 at 3:48 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 12:27 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote: Hey Johanabrahams.

Are you still claming to be both God and God's wife?

Are you still asking people to call you "Mother?"

Are you still stalking your ex-wife and trying to get people to harass her online?

Are you still working in an unlicensed bar?

Are you still bitter about the town that took out restraining orders against you for standing on street corners screaming about beating people with a club?

Are you still trying to get personal information about people and stalking them elsewhere?

Is it still the case that the only one of your kids who still talks to you is the alcoholic who buys cheap booze at the unlicensed bar you work at?

Did you ever face trial for the accusations of child abuse that were made against you and got you kicked out of a daycare?

Quote:Are you still claming to be both God and God's wife?

When you are a Child of God you get born as a Baby God.  And when you are grown up you become the Bride of God and it changes to become the Wife of God.

Quote:Are you still asking people to call you "Mother?"

When you are into a Relationship with someone you will need to know who the person actually is.  I am the Wife of God and give birth to our Child, Jesus.  In this regard i become the Mother of that Child.  It obviously excludes you.   As i know you are Jesus but you don't know it.  And I know i am your Mother but you don't accept it.  I can never force this.  It is up to you to take me or leave me.  Love does not force.  It has to be accepted or rejected.

Quote:Are you still stalking your ex-wife and trying to get people to harass her online?

Nope.  I never did that.  But if people want to have her side of the story they should ask her.  She is online.  This is not stalking.  It is just getting to the bottom of the facts.  Which she is "obliged" to give.  If she doesn't accept her obligation it makes her immoral.  But of course I understand why she is hiding away.  As people in the wrong does that.  Pride makes them do it. 

And I would of course like for her to be free from herself.  Hiding the Truth away and allowing someone else to take the punishment for your wrongs is a killer.

Quote:Are you still working in an unlicensed bar?

That was many years ago.  Where the woman of that house didn't see herself able to get a license.  But after many talking with her and the police helping from their side she eventually agreed that i can assist her in getting that license.  So she is very grateful now.  Because she bought a big house and two luxurious cars and two pickups and are now saving for a luxurious Tavern.  

Quote:Are you still bitter about the town that took out restraining orders against you for standing on street corners screaming about beating people with a club?

Follow the converstation between me and Abaddon in this regard.  It will help a lot with all these wrong assumptions.   It makes you look delusional.

Quote:Are you still trying to get personal information about people and stalking them elsewhere?

I never did this.  But of course it will be easy to get links and show us. 

I do however try and help people to get out of their "incognito" status though.  For their own sake.  Living with fear is a killer.  But there is no force.  Love can not be forced.  But it is misinterpreted by the such as you.   For personal gain.

Quote:Is it still the case that the only one of your kids who still talks to you is the alcoholic who buys cheap booze at the unlicensed bar you work at?

If it was not for your fear you could have asked him.  He is on my Facebook Page.  But they are many now.  I can unfortunately not link you.  You will have to wait for 30 days.  It is the "mods" messing up again.  Like usual.

Quote:Did you ever face trial for the accusations of child abuse that were made against you and got you kicked out of a daycare?

Never. 
It is just your opinion derived from Abaddon's backbiting which he is calling "sacrosanct".  You will find the truth in the Skeptic Society Forum that dissected the "trial" perfectly by an experience law person.  Not influenced by "sacrosanct".


Seems you have a very negative attitude towards me.  Misusing your "incognito" to enjoy all your slander.  But you are paying a huge price.  You have no Real Relationships.  You just have your "slander".  It is giving such an inferior life.  Classified by God as "death".  The death life of Adam that he chose in Eden when he chose against Love.  As your Mother i forgive you for it all.  I am just giving you the opportunity to learn.  To get a better Life.  In Love towards others.  The you will not slander anymore.  But use evidence to prove your case for the sake of uplifting the other person.

As in your loveless situation in "incognito" where you don't have to face the consequences of your words you have just "slander" to try and uplift yourself by degrading me.   This is really not a good life to live.  Because if you live it here you obviously live it in your real live too.

This is a level of crazy we have not seen here in a long time.


Is crazy like stupid? really really stupid people think they are smart and really really crazy people think they are the sane ones and we are all failing to see it? Is it like that?

(May 28, 2020 at 9:56 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 9:39 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: What about the feeling of "compassion"?  For those struggling in their "illness"?

Sure, that too...but we're talking about a self inflicted wound....soooooo........

Quote:That is exactly what I do.  And that is exactly what i expect to happen.  Only it is not a "fairy dad".  But The Real Dad.  Because exactly this happened to me.  

That gone over well?  How many members are there in your cult at present?

Quote:I know.  We all have them.  Some are lucky and have a loving dad.  That is why God use this terminology so that we can be able to understand what He is about. 

We clearly don't all have them, at least not like I do.  Your desire for a father and a lover is plain demonstration of that.  If god uses this terminology tpo help us understand, then he fucked up there - it breeds confusion and nutbars, like you.

Or maybe you fucked up.  What are the odds, if you had to call them, between you being the fuckup and the author of creation being the fuckup?

Quote:The only difference is that God puts it in context with who and what He is.  The Almighty Dad.  That is where it gets "mind blowing".  And that is why I appear to be without a "mind" because God "blew it away" in my experiences with Him.

Sure.......that's definitely why...........

Quote:Yep.  We don't see God with our physical eyes but with our Spiritual Eyes.  But the picture does get more clear every day as we grow up to "see" Him better.

You must have extra eyes.  I don't have any spiritual eyes.  That has to be awkward when you hook up on tinder.

Quote:All Christians know that this is what it all is about.  We have to grow into experiencing more of God's presence in our Lives as a Reality. 

Do they?   Does that include you, or the "other" christians...because it seems to me like you guys have some disagreement over what it's all about.

Quote:Religion is the mind thinking about God and trying to bring it to others in understandable words and ideas and opinions.  It is not Relationships.  You can for instance tell your friend about your wife but it is not the actual relationship with you and your wife.  

Religion has no necessary relationship to gods.  Plenty of religious people never think about them at all.  

Quote:There are many different religions and those adhering to them.  As Christians we know we have to find unity which is rather evasive.  To find some Christian that differ from me is easy.  But let us stick to what we have.  Those calling them Christians seems to stay away from my thread.  Why do you think it is the case?

We get the loudest nutbars who don't represent christianity.  Nutbars like you.  That;s how I would explain it.  If a christian finds themselveds here, it's very likely that they;ve already tried christian water and been ejected from the pool.
  
How about you, what has your experience been?  Ejected from the christian pool lately......?

Quote:We call it different.  We are getting born as a Child of God.  And we enter this Life as a Baby of God.  Or a Baby God which many will object too.  But that is me defining the Reality of having God as Father.  So the "Babies" just does not understand much.  That is where the divisions comes from.

You keep saying we...but unless there's more than one person in your head...`or you'd like to invite another person from your cult to the boards..it's just you.

Quote:Sure, that too...but we're talking about a self inflicted wound....soooooo........

Nope.  According to your words those wounds were inflicted by others?  Seems like the "pastors" of churches.?

Quote:That gone over well?  How many members are there in your cult at present?

All Christians know that there had to be a Personal Relationship with God.  They had to meet Him personally and they have to find a permanent being with Him as their Father.  Sure.  Many pastors mess up.  And then the followers suffer the negative consequences.  And there should be compassion for them.  Even some pastors don't know they are messing up.  Because they were messed up in the first place.

Quote:We clearly don't all have them, at least not like I do.  Your desire for a father and a lover is plain demonstration of that.  If god uses this terminology tpo help us understand, then he fucked up there - it breeds confusion and nutbars, like you.

Or maybe you fucked up.  What are the odds, if you had to call them, between you being the fuckup and the author of creation being the fuckup?

Those that never experienced a loving father was never excluded from information about such.   So we all know what a Loving Father is all about.  And now you can just accept God as such or reject Him.  Up to everyone to decide for Himself. 

So to you it is easy.  You had one a "loving father".  Of course the Love of God is much Greater.  But that should not be a problem to understand and to choose for Him or against him. 

Quote:Do they?   Does that include you, or the "other" christians...because it seems to me like you guys have some disagreement over what it's all about.

Disagreements are a reality of life.  But the Truth is there to correct the wrong one in the disagreement.  And in the end everybody comes to the Truth.   Those disagreeing and in different religions are just the Babies of God struggling to see.  As we get born again as a Baby God not knowing much about the life we are experiencing.  And being so much human we like to argue that what we experience is the "ultimate".  Babies are just Babies.  No need to judge them for being Babies.

1 Cor. 3
  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal,even  as unto babes in Christ.
   I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
   For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
   For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
   Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
   I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
   So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Quote:Religion has no necessary relationship to gods.  Plenty of religious people never think about them at all. 

Yep.  So some of us are different.  We actually met the Living One.  And that is much better than just talking about one.  Acutally being with One.  And in the specific Relationship as Father and His Child.  Being born of Him and the same.  Being raised by Him and your Mother to become and Adult and exactly the same.  So much better than just imagining one.

Quote:We get the loudest nutbars who don't represent christianity.  Nutbars like you. 

Wrong there.  i do.  I just don't represent religion.  Mind games.  I represent a Living Relationship.  Everyone knows that is the Truth about Christianity.  

Quote:That;s how I would explain it.  If a christian finds themselveds here, it's very likely that they;ve already tried christian water and been ejected from the pool.
  
How about you, what has your experience been?  Ejected from the christian pool lately......?

Nope.  That is not my reason.  Sure i have been "ejected" in my hometown by the "religious white South Africans" for speaking up about their lies that God is into corporal punishment.  Now after 20 years and the decision of the government just recently that it is wrong many of them are re exterminating their rejection of me.  But in the present community where i am living, the black South Africans i am not rejected by all.  Just some that I visited.  I didn't visit all so I am not rejected there yet.  But in general I am accepted by them.  This you will notice on my Facebook Page.

I do believe that the honest Christians that hear what I have to say will eventually be persuaded by the Truth Himself.  So my rejection is just temporary.  And in the end many will have much gratitude for me having suffered to open their eyes.

Quote:You keep saying we...but unless there's more than one person in your head...`or you'd like to invite another person from your cult to the boards..it's just you.

They are just not here.  But I have linked many places where they are on my profile.

They are still very much human.  Like you.  The fear to interact is actually stealing interaction.   Just like you.  So i will help you with your fear.  Then you can do the "interacting".  Like i am doing now.  Coming here and interacting with all of you.  Honestly. In the open. In full view of everybody. As only that is really honest interacting. Hiding away in "incognito" is not.

As I stated.  They are the Babies of God that is hindered in their growth by their "bosses".   I can only link you after 30 days.  Not my mistake.  Yours in "your forum.   As fearing links from this side is so "human like".  Fear is making you act "delusional".   As can also be witnessed in the "covid fear".