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God's Love
RE: God's Love
(May 28, 2020 at 10:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If God loves me, why does he see other people?

Boru

If God Loves you then He would want you to ask Him personally.  Because getting an answer from Him personally is what it all is about.

(May 28, 2020 at 12:33 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(May 28, 2020 at 12:27 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote: Hey Johanabrahams.

Are you still claming to be both God and God's wife?

Are you still asking people to call you "Mother?"

Are you still stalking your ex-wife and trying to get people to harass her online?

Are you still working in an unlicensed bar?

Are you still bitter about the town that took out restraining orders against you for standing on street corners screaming about beating people with a club?

Are you still trying to get personal information about people and stalking them elsewhere?

Is it still the case that the only one of your kids who still talks to you is the alcoholic who buys cheap booze at the unlicensed bar you work at?

Did you ever face trial for the accusations of child abuse that were made against you and got you kicked out of a daycare?

Popcorn

For a Relationship to work you have to give your thoughts and feelings.  That is giving your soul to another.  I gave mine to everyone.  Just as God gave His.  He is your Father.  And when you accept Him for who and what He is the connection is established.  Love does not force.

Some might make a connection while most might miss making it.  I am His Wife.  And then there are His Children too.  Granted most are still Babies fighting one another in their various religions and doctrines.  But Babies are rather cute.  And God Loves His Babies too.
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RE: God's Love
(May 30, 2020 at 6:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Of course you are welcome to prove that I am lying.

Sure, proof that you are full of shit is that you debunk yourself over and over in this topic. Here's an example

Johanabrahams Wrote:I said "evil" got those guys drowned.  God is not evil and not into punishment.   So God didn't punish Hitler.  But evil got him in the end.

Johanabrahams Wrote:Sure He made evil for those that want it.

You first claim that God is love but then you admit that God created evil.

You claim that God is not into punishment but that evil punished evil people -- but if God created that evil then God punished them because God created them evil. You try to dodge this by saying "people chose evil God created" but someone has to be evil to "choose" evil.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: God's Love
This idea that god is love is rather a recent thing.

Mostly people were afraid of its wrath in the past. God caused the plagues or bad weather or that sheep to die because you had a gay in the village or didn't worship hard enough.
There is a reason that believers were called "god fearing".
Past god was a dick who has been rehabilitated when required but with reference to dick god when it suits the particular prejudice of the believer.



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RE: God's Love
(May 30, 2020 at 9:01 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
(May 28, 2020 at 10:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If God loves me, why does he see other people?

Boru

If God Loves you then He would want you to ask Him personally.  Because getting an answer from Him personally is what it all is about.

(May 28, 2020 at 12:33 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Popcorn

For a Relationship to work you have to give your thoughts and feelings.  That is giving your soul to another.  I gave mine to everyone.  Just as God gave His.  He is your Father.  And when you accept Him for who and what He is the connection is established.  Love does not force.

Some might make a connection while most might miss making it.  I am His Wife.  And then there are His Children too.  Granted most are still Babies fighting one another in their various religions and doctrines.  But Babies are rather cute.  And God Loves His Babies too.

You are off your meds, aren't you?
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RE: God's Love
(May 28, 2020 at 1:43 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote: He used to be on the International Skeptics Forum a few years back. It's been a while since I'd even thought of him so I can't remember the specifics of where he revealed some of those tidbits.
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Link removed due to 30/30 violation.

He was eventually banned for stalking behavior. It was neat neat trick on his part. He managed to get himself permanently banned while suspended.

He also exposed a lot in his Facebook comments, but he tends to hide or delete those if they become inconvenient for the narrative he's presenting at any given moment.

If memory serves one of his opening salvos was to post the contact information for a bunch of people who had taken out restraining orders against him. He was asking forum members to get in touch with them. The moderators deleted the list and gave him a warning, but not before another forum member snagged the list and contacted those people asking about Johanabrahams. The people who responded asked not to be named but supposedly confirmed some very unflattering things about him.

The cherry on top was that if anyone brought up something one of these poor people had said, Johanabrahams went on a tirade about talking about people behind their back and immorally researching his past, as if he were not the one who had started by asking others to get in touch with those folks in the first place! He even did this with things he himself had admitted or even bragged about.


Quote:He used to be on the International Skeptics Forum a few years back. It's been a while since I'd even thought of him so I can't remember the specifics of where he revealed some of those tidbits.


No problem.  It is about moving further now.  My Life was further discussed in SGU forums.  I was banned there too.  And then everything was brought to conclusion in the Skeptic Society Forum.  There was a professional law educated person there "Nicky" that helped with it.

Unfortunately I can not post links for the same reason as you.  So we have to relay on @Abaddon_ire to do that.


Quote:He was eventually banned for stalking behavior. It was neat neat trick on his part. He managed to get himself permanently banned while suspended.

Actually not.  It was Kali that wanted to prove that she can also have a fake Facebook account.  And when I took her up on it she made use of the opportunity to get me banned.



Quote:He also exposed a lot in his Facebook comments, but he tends to hide or delete those if they become inconvenient for the narrative he's presenting at any given moment.

Ok.  Maybe you can prove this?  Because @chimp3  that was into my Facebook saw nothing of that.  Seems it is just an unproven opinion of you.  Influenced by Abaddon and his "backbiting".



Quote:If memory serves one of his opening salvos was to post the contact information for a bunch of people who had taken out restraining orders against him. He was asking forum members to get in touch with them. The moderators deleted the list and gave him a warning, but not before another forum member snagged the list and contacted those people asking about Johanabrahams. The people who responded asked not to be named but supposedly confirmed some very unflattering things about him.

Yep.  I intended it to be an open conversation.  But evil took over.  And "backbiting" came into being.  That was very unfortunate.  But we did get it all sorted out with evidence that the physical attacks was actually done by the opposing side.  I was just always forgiving them.  


Quote:The cherry on top was that if anyone brought up something one of these poor people had said, Johanabrahams went on a tirade about talking about people behind their back and immorally researching his past, as if he were not the one who had started by asking others to get in touch with those folks in the first place! He even did this with things he himself had admitted or even bragged about.

When you speak behind someone's back it is evil.  They should have spoken to my face. Right on they forum.  But they decided to speak to Abaddon in secret ("sacrosanct" as they called it)  and gave any twist they feel they can get away with.  But of course the Truth always prevail.  It took a year to get out but it did. 

And now poor Abaddon thought it was me attacking them with my "cudgel".  While the "cudgel" was actually in the hands of the pastors and congregation members.  I counted 38 assaults against me in the first year.  Then I stopped counting.  It was not strange anymore. They really took him for a long ride. But he allowed it while I warned him.
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This loon also has his own youtube channel. Not much on it. 1 Subscriber. The question I have is "Is there a sex tape?".
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RE: God's Love
This guy is taking ya’ll for a ride, lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: God's Love
@Johanabrahams
I don’t know if you’re aware of this yet, but I am actually god. I am Jesus, here to reckon to all of you. Judgement day is here. The lord wanted to let a chick have a crack at this. I am the light and the daughter of love. Do you accept me as your personal savior?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: God's Love
Dude reminds me a little of Mark Dreher who was here some years ago (you guys shit canned him pretty quickly). On TTA he was a menace for a long, long time.

Claimed he was in a romantic relationship with god and god is a black woman.

Drove a TranAm, IIRC. He had some fantastical stories to tell about his special relationship with his god.

He was full on crazy as they come. Johnny Boy here seems to be suffering from a similar ailment of the mind.
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RE: God's Love
(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
(May 28, 2020 at 2:40 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: I was the one that snagged the contact list. All of the things mentioned are actual events. When he was threatening to beat people with a club he was at the time actually carrying one.

At one point he was sent for compulsory psychiatric treatment. He dropped it.


Yes.

First, on the other site you told us so.
Second, I got witness testimony, did you forget that?
Third, I obtained the court judgment, did you forget that too?


Duh. Because you read it on the other site, you moron. It's not exactly a state secret, is it?

Besides, you could have merely guessed with a 50/50 chance of being right.

Also, unlike you, I am not a crazy ex-wife stalker. I didn't contest it like you did. I wanted it. I am glad to be rid of the woman and haven't ever been happier.

Even the Covid crisis hasn't affected me. Out on the empty road all day in the fresh air and sunshine. Meeting people who are grateful that you turned up or even  a different friendly face to talk to. I make plenty of money.

I have a nice home to return to, furnished an decorated to my taste upon which I pay no rent, nor mortgage because I own it. In fact, I have no debt at all, not even credit card debt.

So what the fuck is this shit?


So what crisis would that be?

ETA: I think it is projection. My divorce was a happy release, but for you, it was a crisis so you project that unto others. Simple projection.


Quote:I was the one that snagged the contact list.

Sorry for that.  I didn't mean for you to go about it in an unlawful way.
You didn't mean to but you did it anyway. Because you are a cunt.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: I gave it to you all.
False. You gave YOUR spin on it which I spent the effort on to determine the truth. You are no interested in truth.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Right in the open. 
An illegal and immoral act.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: But unfortunately the "bosses" there didn't realize there was nothing wrong in doing it because it is done with the consent of all.
Lie. You did not have the consent of anyone I spoke to, at all.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Bosses rule in laws and they don't have Love nor Wisdom.  That is the reason for their lack of judgment skills.  So they didn't know that a court case is a public case.
Apparently, you don't know how any of that works.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:All of the things mentioned are actual events.

Yep.  It is all true.  It is just the opinions of people misinterpreting that gives problems.
There is no other way to interpret the facts.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:When he was threatening to beat people with a club he was at the time actually carrying one.


This is a lie.  I don't operate in threats and neither in physical power.  That is from the other side.  As you have still neglected to post the link of an actual event too.
Have you forgotten the side discussion about the nature of the traditional african club you were wielding? You even named it. 

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The one in SGU forum under the heading of "Fake court orders".  Where the pastor grabbed me at the throat and ran me against the wall and jacked me up against the wall.  All on my throat with his hands. In Shoprite the day before Christmas in the year 2000.  And my actions were first trying to help him carry his bags and secondly accepting my death and not resisting and afterwards just a word of Forgiveness to him. 
Given what I know, I would consider such action against you to be entirely justified. You are demonstrably insane, demonstrably violent and a clear and present danger to those around you.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: So try to stick to actual events.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that.  That is the "sacrosanct" spirit making you delusional.  As evil spirits take over the mind and make you act in that "delusional" way.  
Except there is no such thing as spirits, you moron.


(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:At one point he was sent for compulsory psychiatric treatment. He dropped it.

My home town tried.  They got my mother involved and the doctors.  But they also had to get one outsider doctor.  He didn't want to play along.  So their whole plan of action fell through. 

Again.  Stick to the facts.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that.
That is called "staging an intervention". You might look up what that is and why it is done.


(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:First, on the other site you told us so.
Second, I got witness testimony, did you forget that?
Third, I obtained the court judgment, did you forget that too?


The court judgment was looked at very closely and precisely dissected by an experienced person in the Skeptic Society Forum.  I suggested twice you should look at it.  You still stubbornly refuse.  So please do that.  Because without sticking to the facts you come over as very "delusional".
Lie. Why must you lie so much? Oh, it's because you are nuttier than a bag of peanuts.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:Duh. Because you read it on the other site, you moron. It's not exactly a state secret, is it?

Not perfectly true.  You actually told me about it.
So your attempt to imply that you had some special insight was another lie. Understood, liar.

I was fairly sure the matter had been mentioned in one of those threads, but you are simply not worth the effort of checking.


(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:Besides, you could have merely guessed with a 50/50 chance of being right.


You forgot you told me?
Sure, I did not recall if I had or not, but since I am open about such matters, I figured I probably had. Doesn't explain why you felt a need to lie about it.


(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:Also, unlike you, I am not a crazy ex-wife stalker. I didn't contest it like you did.

Not totally right again.  Telling my wife she is on the wrong road in siding with court orders against me is not "contesting" a divorce.
It is when you use violence. 

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: These court orders were against me for revealing their system of child abuse in Die Herberg.  At that stage 20 years ago they were into corporal punishement in Die Herberg. I spoke against it and everybody tried their best to silence me.  Even the churches because they said it is from God.
More lies.

Quote:I wanted it. I am glad to be rid of the woman and haven't ever been happier.

A divorce is just that.  A broken family.  Nothing to be happy about.
[/quote]False. That is not how relationships work and your lack of that understanding is one of the reasons that you are in your current condition.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:Even the Covid crisis hasn't affected me. Out on the empty road all day in the fresh air and sunshine. Meeting people who are grateful that you turned up or even  a different friendly face to talk to. I make plenty of money.

Good for you.  
Yes, it is.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:I have a nice home to return to, furnished an decorated to my taste upon which I pay no rent, nor mortgage because I own it. In fact, I have no debt at all, not even credit card debt.
Good for you.
Yup.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:So what the fuck is this shit?

So what crisis would that be?

A house without a wife and mother is just that.  A broken family life.  It was at this point in ISF that you got angry at me and started fighting me.  Remember?
First, a house is merely a house. That is all.
Second, I have fine famlial relations.
Third, I was angry with you from the time you showed up, I had to operate within the MA that we both signed up to to obtain membership. I followed those rules and you did not. Thus I am still there and you are banned. Because you couldn't follow basic rules.

There is a difference this time round this merry-go-round. This site has different rules, which once again you struggle to follow.
On this site, I have a lot more freedom to state the facts.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:ETA: I think it is projection. My divorce was a happy release, but for you, it was a crisis so you project that unto others. Simple projection.

To me it was something I spoke against.  But I didn't do anything more that warning my wife.  It was my wife's decision and she has to live with the negative consequences.  But I understood her position.  She was threatened by her boss with losing her job if she doesn't' side with the court orders in breaking up our family life.
You did a lot more than just "warn" her. You physically and verbally terrorised her.

(May 30, 2020 at 8:52 am)chimp3 Wrote: I wonder if God has a good divorce lawyer?

According to the bible, god had a wife that was later dispensed with called Asherah, so celestial divorce lawyers it is.
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