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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 10:18 am
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Someone else will still use that fuel. There won't be any reduction. Environmentalism is frustrating.
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 3:06 pm
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(September 13, 2020 at 8:21 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 12, 2020 at 10:49 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Blaming people for using a product when there are few viable alternatives that will solve the problem on a societal level is silly
Blaming the companies that have actively worked against fixing things or improving the situation to profit themselves is not
The environmental hypocrisy argument doesn't work . Individual users giving up stuff will not solve climate change only large changes will .
You’re correct. Individual users giving up stuff won’t solve climate change - I couldn’t agree more. But it would be a huge help.
One gallon of the petrol you put in your car produces 20 pounds of carbon dioxide. There are, very roughly, 1.4 billion passenger vehicles in the world. If each of these vehicles used an average of just one less gallon of fuel per week, that would keep more than 700 megatonnes of CO2 out of the atmosphere every year. Add in the emissions you get from building fewer cars (they’ll last longer) and producing and transporting the fuel (you’ll need less), etc and you’re within striking distance of a gigatonne.
One. Gallon. Per. Week.
Boru That fuel will just go somewhere else.
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 3:09 pm
(September 13, 2020 at 10:18 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Someone else will still use that fuel. There won't be any reduction. Environmentalism is frustrating.
Funny how it never has, then. In those sporadic periods of lower consumption, the surplus petroleum sits in warehouses and on tankers and the price drops like a paralyzed falcon. This happened as recently of March of this year.
The trouble is, the oil gluts and lower prices at pumps cause people to resume their old bad habits. It isn’t that the saved fuel is burned other places, it’s that the fuel is burned in the same places, but just a little bit later.
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 3:16 pm
The most powerful production car available is fully electric (2000bhp) - a Lotus - so the mega small dicked ego twerps be green! Hooray? Search me...
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 3:22 pm
(September 13, 2020 at 3:16 pm)Lawz Wrote: The most powerful production car available is fully electric (2000bhp) - a Lotus - so the mega small dicked ego twerps be green! Hooray? Search me...
And at just $2 000 000 a pop. Climate changed solved!!
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 3:27 pm
If I owned one, I wouldn't dare park it ANYWHERE #playerhatingdon'tstop lolz
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 3:31 pm
(September 13, 2020 at 3:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 13, 2020 at 3:16 pm)Lawz Wrote: The most powerful production car available is fully electric (2000bhp) - a Lotus - so the mega small dicked ego twerps be green! Hooray? Search me...
And at just $2 000 000 a pop. Climate changed solved!!
Boru Uh huh....
California now having rolling blackouts...
Just what they need - more idiots with expensive electric toys....
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 3:37 pm
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 4:56 pm
I guess it is free to manufacture batteries and electric cars run on free electricity that isn't produced anywhere. /sarcasm
The fact is that doing things causes a carbon footprint. changing HOW your car moves simply moves the footprint to something else. I have looked into it and it is more efficient to use solar panels but there is still a cost to producing that electric car, the batteries, the refueling station, blah blah the list goes on.
Maybe we accept the fact that we should consume locally and travel only when necessary? That sucks though admittedly, I really want to go on a cruise with my wife and kids and also a Hawaii trip sounds amazing! I'm a huge conflicted mess!
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RE: This from the California Tourism Board.
September 13, 2020 at 4:56 pm
(September 12, 2020 at 12:04 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Yeah - Gavin Newsom is a real genius... He knows more about climate change than anyone else on the planet.
Unless you don't think that way. Then he believes whatever you do. Just remember to vote for him and the ( D ) party.
Evidently far more than you, admittedly he could still be a total ignoramus.
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