Quote:Christ is always present in His believers, you know that I meant His second coming.

Before you can do that you need to establish that his "first-coming" is something a bit more than the fantasies of believers.

First things first, you know?

(October 31, 2011 at 12:38 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote:

(October 30, 2011 at 4:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: Christ our immortal savior, the mechanism is God's omniscience and omnipotence. The biology we have is insufficient, the change did come with the disobedience of Adam and Eve. Why would God leave traces of the old, no these bodies will die, Christ will resurrect those who accept who He is and we will enjoy eternity with Him. The evidence is coming, just be patient and you will see it, you will believe at that time if you do not before.

Righto and if a bloke sat next to you on a bus and said this would you:

A) congratulate him on his imminent ascent to heaven
B) question his somewhat misguided understanding of scripture and question how he could possibly know such incredible things
C) edge a little further away, slightly concerned for your own safety but unable to stop yourself circling the tip of your index finger around your temple

D) Agree with him and continue a good conversation.

Meanwhile, everyone else on the bus backs away to the door slowly, trying not to make eye contact with you, and get off at the first opportunity. Some are tweeting.

(October 31, 2011 at 11:20 am)Greatest I am Wrote:

(October 30, 2011 at 3:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: She knew it was wrong and she did it anyway. Adam knew it was wrong but listened to his wife instead of God. They broke the fellowship and brought death into the world. They reaped what they sowed.

If A & E brought death to the world, where did God get the dead animal skins to fashion their clothing with.
Death had to already be here.

Like most, you have to scrap 1/2 the Bible to make your theology make any kind of sense at all.

Like most, you read what you want to read and not what is written.

Regards
DL

Adam and Eve sinned and then God killed the animals, shedding their blood to cover Adam and Eve's sin and use the skins to cloth them. This covering of Adam and Eve has this symbolic yet realistic meaning. See, no you'll continue to deceive yourself, the entire Bible is relevant. You need to either quit showing your ignorance of scripture or start studying it and see it's truth. Again I see the truth in the scriptures while you continue to deceive yourself.

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(October 31, 2011 at 5:50 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Meanwhile, everyone else on the bus backs away to the door slowly, trying not to make eye contact with you, and get off at the first opportunity. Some are tweeting.

If they wish.

Oh, they wish.

(October 31, 2011 at 5:59 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(October 31, 2011 at 11:20 am)Greatest I am Wrote:

(October 30, 2011 at 3:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: She knew it was wrong and she did it anyway. Adam knew it was wrong but listened to his wife instead of God. They broke the fellowship and brought death into the world. They reaped what they sowed.

If A & E brought death to the world, where did God get the dead animal skins to fashion their clothing with.
Death had to already be here.

Like most, you have to scrap 1/2 the Bible to make your theology make any kind of sense at all.

Like most, you read what you want to read and not what is written.

Regards
DL

Adam and Eve sinned and then God killed the animals, shedding their blood to cover Adam and Eve's sin and use the skins to cloth them. This covering of Adam and Eve has this symbolic yet realistic meaning. See, no you'll continue to deceive yourself, the entire Bible is relevant. You need to either quit showing your ignorance of scripture or start studying it and see it's truth. Again I see the truth in the scriptures while you continue to deceive yourself.

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I will read the Bible if you can quote for me the information you just added to scriptures about God killing animals in Eden.

Your bible tells you clearly not to add and here you are adding. Tsk tsk.

How about a question of pure logic.
"She knew it was wrong and she did it anyway. Adam knew it was wrong but listened to his wife instead of God. "

Without the knowledge of good and evil, how could A & E know that they were doing evil or wrong?

Can you tell the taste of an apple without eating of it? Of course not.

A & E could not tell evil from good either till they tasted of it.

I do not expect you to give an honest answer. Add more to scripture if you like but do not expect anyone to believe your pathetic apologetics.

Regards
DL

As I recall from reading Genesis, Adam and Eve were deceived by a serpent, not Satan. Can't find Satan named anywhere in that account.

And why is Satan necessary anyway? Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (KJV)

(October 31, 2011 at 5:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: ....See, no you'll continue to deceive yourself, the entire Bible is relevant. You need to either quit showing your ignorance of scripture or start studying it and see it's truth. Again I see the truth in the scriptures while you continue to deceive yourself.

You see right there is the problem. You leave no room for the possibility that you could be wrong. If the atheist doesnt see it as you then they are deceiving themselves, if they do then you were right all along. Just like the hiddenness of god if someone sincerely reaches out and finds god then they did it right, if they don't find god they weren't sincere enough. The other possibility is that the scriptures say what they say and they were the best attempt of bronze age goat herders, but that they are no longer relevant, and that there is no god. You cannot rule that possibility out but you act like you those possibilities do not exist and it's the atheist fault for not believing as you do. It is the consequence and arrogance of faith that you are so certain on things that you cannot possibly know.

Quote:Adam and Eve sinned and then God killed the animals, shedding their blood to cover Adam and Eve's sin and use the skins to cloth them. This covering of Adam and Eve has this symbolic yet realistic meaning. See, no you'll continue to deceive yourself, the entire Bible is relevant. You need to either quit showing your ignorance of scripture or start studying it and see it's truth. Again I see the truth in the scriptures while you continue to deceive yourself.

Admit it, G-C. You're making this shit up just to give us something to laugh at.


Even you couldn't be that stupid.

I wouldn't call him stupid - just differently-intelligent. Special, even.