Sure, and it stands to reason that political ratfucking might also be behind the lack of a living wage, right?

It seems to me that we're discussing a problem with at least two solutions - maximums or minimums. If that's the case, then the question is which of the two solutions to the problem we think best. Would you prefer that we pay walmart greeters more, or your SO less, if it were up to you?

The Democrats want to properly increase our wages. It's just the Republicans who don't.

Don't you remember? Only the Democrats care about the people.

See, that's the thing. I don't know why it has to be that way. I have super right wing views on economic issues...and, it seems to me, that the point of those positions is to get people more money, not less.

I've heard conservatives spout that they get more back in taxes when a Republican is president.

Most people don't see a difference, because the tax breaks are only for a particular bracket.

That's not democracy.

You've heard conservatives lying, lol. I recall a bit back we had one claiming that getting rid of the inheritance tax allowed him to bury his father. I'm sitting there thinking..daddy dies with a mil in assets and you were scrambling to find the change for a grave after taxes?

Something is amiss....

I cannot even look at this thread without thinking of this Innuendo Studios video:




And, yes, I know Biker throws a hissy fit every time you try to put a label on his political views, and this particular video is less about the alt-right and more about conservatism in general (and a follow-up video is devoted to dissecting the history of conservative ideology from Edmund Burke on and how, even then, as the aristocracy fell, it was always about maintaining some semblance of social hierarchy far more than things like fiscal responsibility or small government.)

That said, Biker has jumped right out of the gate and started shouting that it’s not fair that burger flippers could make the same as people who work in Accounts Payable. And he’s not even considering that that scenario might actually be fair; that they both do long hours of work (even if one is manual and one is more cerebral) and now get the same amount of money to show for it. Yes, he’s pro-choice, he’s pro-legalizing weed, he thinks women should be able to do any job men can do, and he doesn’t vote. If anyone wants to know why I call Biker right-wing or conservative, just look at this thread.

Also, college degrees have kinda been useless in The job market for about a decade at this point.

(December 17, 2020 at 11:50 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Also, college degrees have kinda been useless in The job market for about a decade at this point.

Longer than that, I'd say.

College degrees are more about generating profit from interest than getting people jobs, at this point. That's the actual market, and we're the product.

(December 17, 2020 at 11:49 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You've heard conservatives lying, lol. I recall a bit back we had one claiming that getting rid of the inheritance tax allowed him to bury his father. I'm sitting there thinking..daddy dies with a mil in assets and you were scrambling to find the change for a grave after taxes?

Something is amiss....

I just looked up the average cost of burial in America. The state with the highest average total cost was Hawaii with a bit over $40k. And most states have half that.

OFC it's a risible goddamned lie - but that doesn't stop people swearing by it. You'd have to be talking to a 2%er for it to be plausible, and there's still the nagging fact of more than enough left over after taxes to dump a body in a hole.

Speaks to the quality of the programming, but that is what the programming is, so. In mere reality, we're dealing with people holding out hope that they might one day have those problems - a completely ludicrous expectation - and willing to incur massive societal issues on their fellow citizens for a shot at the moon. I honestly don't think that's a left right thing, or a republican democrat thing.

It's just loon shit. Profoundly cruel and irresponsible loon shit.