Quote:Nothing absurd about it. Don't be a phobe and shame me for what I'm attracted to. That would be bigoted.

How the hell is that a phobia or even bigotry

(February 4, 2021 at 9:03 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:Nothing absurd about it. Don't be a phobe and shame me for what I'm attracted to. That would be bigoted.

How the hell is that a phobia or even bigotry

Didn't you get the memo? Everything is phobic nowadays. Miley Cyrus, a non-binary pansexual person, just got 'cancelled' and called transphobic by twitter and trans activists for saying that she thinks breasts are more attractive than balls. I wonder how many trans girls have committed suicide thanks to Miley Cyrus ball shaming them. Miley's record company really needs to drop her for her violence against the trans community.

My post to The Grand Nudger was made in jest and I didn't take any offense to what he posted. There is nothing absurd with admitting to being most attracted to girls the colour of Casper the friendly ghost though. I can't help who I'm attracted to. Arabic girls are extremely attractive too.

Back on topic though. Did I mention that this 9 year old girl is fat?

(February 4, 2021 at 10:15 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(February 4, 2021 at 9:03 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: How the hell is that a phobia or even bigotry

Didn't you get the memo? Everything is phobic nowadays. Miley Cyrus, a non-binary pansexual person, just got 'cancelled' and called transphobic by twitter and trans activists for saying that she thinks breasts are more attractive than balls. I wonder how many trans girls have committed suicide thanks to Miley Cyrus ball shaming them. Miley's record company really needs to drop her for her violence against the trans community.

My post to The Grand Nudger was made in jest and I didn't take any offense to what he posted. There is nothing absurd with admitting to being most attracted to girls the colour of Casper the friendly ghost though. I can't help who I'm attracted to. Arabic girls are extremely attractive too.

Back on topic though. Did I mention that this 9 year old girl is fat?

Talk about some bad parents.

I know your trolling but i'll beat it down anyway

Quote:Didn't you get the memo? Everything is phobic nowadays. 

No it isn't certainly not criticizing someone for saying their sexual preference is a form of superiority isn't 

Quote:Miley Cyrus, a non-binary pansexual person, just got 'canceled' and called transphobic by twitter and trans activists for saying that she thinks breasts are more attractive than balls.

Her status of pansexual and binary doesn't immunize her and I have to see the tweets for myself because I don't trust your warped views. Though I'm doubtful that's the reason. 

(Edit turns out I was right to be suspicious that WAS'NT the reason people were objecting to Cyrus. Do you ever sick of lying and distorting positions?)

Quote: I wonder how many trans girls have committed suicide thanks to Miley Cyrus ball shaming them. Miley's record company really needs to drop her for her violence against the trans community.

Who knows. But nice you treat suicide with such a light hand.

Quote:My post to The Grand Nudger was made in jest and I didn't take any offense to what he posted. There is nothing absurd with admitting to being most attracted to girls the colour of Casper the friendly ghost though. I can't help who I'm attracted to. Arabic girls are extremely attractive too.

Now you have gone full troll 

Quote:Back on topic though. Did I mention that this 9 year old girl is fat?

(February 5, 2021 at 12:17 am)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:Miley Cyrus, a non-binary pansexual person, just got 'canceled' and called transphobic by twitter and trans activists for saying that she thinks breasts are more attractive than balls.

Her status of pansexual and binary doesn't immunize her and I have to see the tweets for myself because I don't trust your warped views. Though I'm doubtful that's the reason. 

(Edit turns out I was right to be suspicious that WAS'NT the reason people were objecting to Cyrus. Do you ever sick of lying and distorting positions?)

Looking at it, I think most of us can agree that Miley's argument could have been worded a Hell of a lot better. Given that she herself identifies as pansexual and non-binary, you'd think she'd acknowledge that gender is more bimodal than her comments imply. But, frankly, this is one of those incidents where the discourse surrounding it is worse. I was able to find two articles about the controversy over it: one from Out and the other from the Daily Wire. The article from Out, frankly, is more eye-rolling than anything else at the very worst,  but the comments section is overrun with TERFs sticking up for Miley, and I'm fairly certain these are not people she wants on her side. And while I didn't look into the Daily Wire's comments section, I can't assume they'd be much better.

And trying to cancel a pansexual non-binary person for a poorly-phrased claim seems deeply counterproductive. I doubt that this thing is going to lead to a Graham Linehan situation with her, but I believe that, even if most attempts to cancel a celebrity are just little more than circle jerks with little to no real-world effect, it's liable (especially in cases like this) to do a lot more harm than good, even if it just means your demonstrating you have a watered-down version of the mindset of Dexter Morgan. Not exactly killing serial killers, just looking for an outlet for your toxic impulses on an apparently worthy target.

(February 5, 2021 at 1:28 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(February 5, 2021 at 12:17 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Her status of pansexual and binary doesn't immunize her and I have to see the tweets for myself because I don't trust your warped views. Though I'm doubtful that's the reason. 

(Edit turns out I was right to be suspicious that WAS'NT the reason people were objecting to Cyrus. Do you ever sick of lying and distorting positions?)

Looking at it, I think most of us can agree that Miley's argument could have been worded a Hell of a lot better. Given that she herself identifies as pansexual and non-binary, you'd think she'd acknowledge that gender is more bimodal than her comments imply. But, frankly, this is one of those incidents where the discourse surrounding it is worse. I was able to find two articles about the controversy over it: one from Out and the other from the Daily Wire. The article from Out, frankly, is more eye-rolling than anything else,  but the comments section is overrun with TERFs sticking up for Miley, and I'm fairly certain these are not people she wants on her side. And while I didn't look into the Daily Wire's comments section, I can't assume they'd be much better.

And trying to cancel a pansexual non-binary person for a poorly-phrased claim seems deeply counterproductive. I doubt that this thing is going to lead to a Graham Linehan situation with her, but I believe that, even if most attempts to cancel a celebrity are just little more than circle jerks with little to no real-world effect, it's liable (especially in cases like this) to do a lot more harm than good, even if it just means your demonstrating you have a watered-down version of the mindset of Dexter Morgan. Not exactly killing serial killers, just looking for an outlet for your toxic impulses on an apparently worthy target.

I'm not for canceling her. I was simply pointing out IA was framing the objection in a dishonest way. As for Cyrus plenty of Trans and nonbinary people side with Terf's on trans issues, unfortunately. So I'm not as quick to dismiss it as a mere mistake. But I could be wrong.

I made a couple of jokey, sarcastic posts in the thread, but I see that didn't go over well. I'll go back to being completely serious. The part about me being into pale girls was not a joke. This is my favourite actor https://www.google.ca/search?q=saoirse+r...Tva6o0tR8M The beautiful Irish actor Saoirse Ronan. Her latest movie Ammonite was fantastic.

The thread seems to have devolved into people making sarcastic posts about the 9 year old deserving to be maced because she's overweight, and people purposely misinterpreting my posts and Onlinebikers posts to make it seem like we support her being maced, when we both entirely disagreed with the polices actions. That's why I stopped being serious in the thread. Because people are arguing in bad faith against an argument no one made.

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(February 5, 2021 at 1:28 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(February 5, 2021 at 12:17 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Her status of pansexual and binary doesn't immunize her and I have to see the tweets for myself because I don't trust your warped views. Though I'm doubtful that's the reason. 

(Edit turns out I was right to be suspicious that WAS'NT the reason people were objecting to Cyrus. Do you ever sick of lying and distorting positions?)

Looking at it, I think most of us can agree that Miley's argument could have been worded a Hell of a lot better. Given that she herself identifies as pansexual and non-binary, you'd think she'd acknowledge that gender is more bimodal than her comments imply. But, frankly, this is one of those incidents where the discourse surrounding it is worse. I was able to find two articles about the controversy over it: one from Out and the other from the Daily Wire. The article from Out, frankly, is more eye-rolling than anything else at the very worst,  but the comments section is overrun with TERFs sticking up for Miley, and I'm fairly certain these are not people she wants on her side. And while I didn't look into the Daily Wire's comments section, I can't assume they'd be much better.

And trying to cancel a pansexual non-binary person for a poorly-phrased claim seems deeply counterproductive. I doubt that this thing is going to lead to a Graham Linehan situation with her, but I believe that, even if most attempts to cancel a celebrity are just little more than circle jerks with little to no real-world effect, it's liable (especially in cases like this) to do a lot more harm than good, even if it just means your demonstrating you have a watered-down version of the mindset of Dexter Morgan. Not exactly killing serial killers, just looking for an outlet for your toxic impulses on an apparently worthy target.

She was obviously referring to bio women and bio men. I'm pretty sure she knows gender is not based on genitals since she doesn't identify as female. Not everything needs to be spelled out. It does for the warriors though. They are never satisfied. She has had a bunch of performances showcasing trans people dancing with her. She has a whole video dedicated to showcasing trans people, people in wheelchairs, fat women, black women, etc, but no matter what you do, it's never enough for the warriors. They will take the first thing they can interpret in any way as a slip up and turn on you. I don't think it will bother her though. She'll just laugh it off. Miley has a great attitude. She has probably been body shamed more than any celeb ever, especially after her Blurred Lines performance at that awards show where people were comparing her ass to a chicken. She responded like a boss though and did not play victim. What was her response? She posted something like "more tweets about me than about the Super Bowl". She took the criticism as success. She thought, 'at least people are talking about me'.

The part of the routine where we complain that everyone and the furniture is arguing in bad faith. All a guy does is put in the work to make everyone realize that he's a complete ass, and people start acting like he's an ass.

The unfairness of it all.

(February 5, 2021 at 10:54 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The part of the routine where we complain that everyone and the furniture is arguing in bad faith.  All a guy does is put in the work to make everyone realize that he's a complete ass, and people start acting like he's an ass.

The unfairness of it all.

I don't believe you argued that we think it's ok to pepper spray a 9 year old, and I respect that from you. Some others are acting like we supported the pepper spraying though, and that's dishonest.