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RE: Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?
March 4, 2021 at 9:39 am
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(March 3, 2021 at 8:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (March 2, 2021 at 11:14 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Free will doesn't exist, and that is something that we all, without exception, agree upon!
I disagree.
And, so, you think that individuals who have epileptic seizures are "choosing" to have their seizures?
(March 2, 2021 at 11:30 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (March 2, 2021 at 11:14 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Free will doesn't exist, and that is something that we all, without exception, agree upon! To give one of countless examples, Alzheimer's patients are not "choosing" to forget the names of their grandchildren (or, the fact, that they have grandchildren.)
How about don't speak for everyone.
And, so, individuals who suffer a stroke, resulting in Broca's Aphasia are all simply choosing to remain silent and babble instead?
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RE: Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?
March 4, 2021 at 10:06 am
(March 4, 2021 at 9:39 am)Jehanne Wrote: (March 3, 2021 at 8:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I disagree.
And, so, you think that individuals who have epileptic seizures are "choosing" to have their seizures?
(March 2, 2021 at 11:30 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How about don't speak for everyone.
And, so, individuals who suffer a stroke, resulting in Broca's Aphasia are all simply choosing to remain silent and babble instead? Medical issues are your way of proving that nobody has free will?
Also, my point was that you cannot speak for everyone else. You seem to be pretty sure everybody agrees with you.
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RE: Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?
March 4, 2021 at 11:06 am
(March 4, 2021 at 10:06 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (March 4, 2021 at 9:39 am)Jehanne Wrote: And, so, you think that individuals who have epileptic seizures are "choosing" to have their seizures?
And, so, individuals who suffer a stroke, resulting in Broca's Aphasia are all simply choosing to remain silent and babble instead? Medical issues are your way of proving that nobody has free will?
Also, my point was that you cannot speak for everyone else. You seem to be pretty sure everybody agrees with you.
Where does your free will come from? When I say where, I am actually asking "which machine are your thoughts coming from?"
When sodium valproate is given to a patient, on which machine does sodium valproate act upon?
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RE: Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?
March 4, 2021 at 11:14 am
Oh, dear, the confusion is strong with this one.
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March 4, 2021 at 11:20 am
This thread has become absurd.
But, please do continue with the inane chatter.
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March 4, 2021 at 11:33 am
(March 4, 2021 at 10:06 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (March 4, 2021 at 9:39 am)Jehanne Wrote: And, so, you think that individuals who have epileptic seizures are "choosing" to have their seizures?
And, so, individuals who suffer a stroke, resulting in Broca's Aphasia are all simply choosing to remain silent and babble instead? Medical issues are your way of proving that nobody has free will?
Also, my point was that you cannot speak for everyone else. You seem to be pretty sure everybody agrees with you.
I certainly hope that they (you) would! Mental retardation, schizophrenia, brain tumors, etc., are not things that individuals choose, and, yet such conditions can have profound consequences with respect to one's behavior. For instance, the Kentucky legislature here very recently passed a law forbidding the death penalty for those murderers that have grave mental illness, implying that they at least accept the compatibilist view of free will. As Dr. Sam Harris points out in his book on the subject, even the compatibilist view is fraught with problems, as modern day fMRI experiments are able to predict the outcomes of your choices before you even are consciously aware of said choices. And, yet, how can an individual be said to freely choose an action that they are only consciously aware of after the fact?
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RE: Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?
March 4, 2021 at 12:47 pm
(March 4, 2021 at 9:39 am)Jehanne Wrote: (March 3, 2021 at 8:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I disagree.
And, so, you think that individuals who have epileptic seizures are "choosing" to have their seizures? Great thundering herds of flaming strawmen later...
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March 4, 2021 at 12:50 pm
(March 4, 2021 at 11:06 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Where does your free will come from?
Where does the "us" to be controlled by chemicals come in? Six of one, half dozen of another, if you ask me.
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RE: Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?
March 4, 2021 at 2:22 pm
(March 3, 2021 at 10:30 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Very seldom do we have reason to multiply bunches of apples, although I will give an example where it happens below. But, we *do* have reason to multiply meters and meters--it gives us an area. We can even multiply meters by meters by meters to get a volume.
Seconds (s) are frequently multiplied by seconds, although typically it is divided by seconds twice in a row. So, a meter divided by a second is a measure of velocity and dividing by seconds again gives an acceleration. Doing it again gives something called the jerk.
Densities are often measured in mass per volume, in other words kg/m^3. But, for example, the units of energy are kg*m /s^2.
It is less common to have to multiply by kelvins or to divide by them twice, but it does happen. For example, if you are interested in how something expands on heating, the appropriate units would be m^3/K. If you want to know how that coefficient of expansion changes as the temeprature changes, that would give something like m^3/K^2.
Another situation is where you want to talk about entropy, which has units of energy/kelvin, or kg*m/(s^2 K). But, if you want to know the rate at which the entropy changes with temperature, that would be kg*m/(s^2 K^2).
As for apples, if you want to know a price per apple, that would be something like dollars/apple. But, if you want to know how that price changes for more apples, that would be something like dollars/apples^2.
Yes, acceleration, expressed as m/s^2 corresponds to something in our reality. However, s^2 doesn't correspond to anything.
What would it mean if I do 1/(9.81546 m/s^2 / 23.5 m) = 2.39418223904 s^2
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Well, s^2 naturally comes up when you want to go from acceleration to a distance traveled. (1/2)gt^2. You are multiplying the acceleration (g) by the square of a time (t^2). That second term has units of s^2.
All that an s^2 would mean is that you are multiplying two times together. That happens frequently in physics.
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RE: Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?
March 4, 2021 at 3:35 pm
(March 4, 2021 at 12:47 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (March 4, 2021 at 9:39 am)Jehanne Wrote: And, so, you think that individuals who have epileptic seizures are "choosing" to have their seizures? Great thundering herds of flaming strawmen later...
Your point?
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