(April 22, 2021 at 2:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(April 22, 2021 at 2:06 pm)Reforged Wrote: Well if I'm bar staff or a passerby and I noticed Mr Beardy Creepy Anarachy guy pop into the womens bathroom I might be inclined to go "Hm. Thats... huh. I should tell someone about that." If on the other hand hes wearing a cheerleader outfit and he pops in to the womens bathroom or bathroom number 3... now what?
Suggestions?

Same guy with the same beard goes into the boys room and touches my son.  Where were you, Mr Bar Staff...since you're taking that responsibility on?

Where was I? Where the fuck were you? You let your son go in alone? Are you out of your mind?

Anyway, answer my question please. Or just say you don't know, noone would blame you because as I have said noone does.

Are we or are we not discussing exactly what you asked? Feel free to repeat or rephrase, I do enjoy being thorough.

I'm glad to see that you've decided, on second thought, maybe you aren't actually empowered or responsible when it comes to following people into bathrooms to protect the virtue of the occupants. I wouldn't want that job either.

(April 22, 2021 at 2:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Are we or are we not discussing exactly what you asked?

Well what seems to be happening is I'm asking you what the correct protocol is for preventing easy access to rapists that wouldn't usually be there and you're avoiding saying I don't know because... I don't know. You find it embarrassing or something.
Which you shouldn't, its a mark of maturity to admit what you don't know.

When you can figure out whatever it is that you want me to comment on that I haven't, I'm obviously game, lol.

In the meantime, let's have some fun. Suppose that your inane concerns were a real and present concern - and that denying trans humanity was something we might want to do in order to protect the virtue of our daughters.

Could you see how all of that could be true (in this scenario it simply is, freeing you from the loathsome burden of turning dogshit into sense entirely, you're welcome)...and, even so..that would be a problem for the ideology of humanism and an advocacy group focused on humanism? Perhaps they might insist, then, on a third bathroom, as a more humanist way to deal with all concerns. There's really no point at which a humanist association gives up on humans, you see.

Now, in mere reality, trans people aren't bearded rapists chasing our daughters into bathrooms, and little boys get touched in bathrooms by boys at a far higher rate. So, it's not a clear or present concern, or any concern at all - because the subject is trans people, not rapists. Follow?

(April 22, 2021 at 2:22 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: When you can figure out whatever it is that you want me to comment on that I haven't, I'm obviously game, lol.  

In the meantime, let's have some fun.  Suppose that your inane concerns were a real and present concern - and that denying trans humanity was something we might want to do in order to protect the virtue of our daughters.

Could you see how all of that could be true (in this scenario it simply is, freeing you from the loathsome burden of turning dogshit into sense entirely, you're welcome)...and, even so..that would be a problem for he ideology of humanism and and advocacy group focused on humanism?

I'm not sure I need to grant you that... no... no I'm pretty sure I don't considering you just sidestepped my question by presenting bait in the form of putting words in my mouth I never once said.
The question was once again...
What is the correct protocol for preventing easy access of rapists to transgender bathrooms? Have the LGBTQ community suggested anything?

You see, a conversation is give and take. Not take and take. You haven't given yet. See how that works? Get back to me when you're ready, k?

What's the correct protocol for keeping rapists out of bathrooms -now-?

Pro-tip, there isn't one, we aren't posting guards. Some bigots think we should, and not because there are suddenly rapists, but because they're bigots. It really is that simple. It's not your job, or bar staffs job, to keep rapists out of bathrooms, and keeping trans people out of bathrooms won't do that if it were your job, anyway.

(April 22, 2021 at 2:06 pm)Reforged Wrote:

(April 22, 2021 at 2:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: How are people protected against you in this system?  Do you think that trans people are creepy bearded piece of shit rapists who people need to be protected from?  Are we posting guards?

Well if I'm bar staff or a passerby and I noticed Mr Beardy Creepy Anarachy guy pop into the womens bathroom I might be inclined to go "Hm. Thats... huh. I should tell someone about that." If on the other hand hes wearing a cheerleader outfit and he pops in to the womens bathroom or bathroom number 3... now what?
Suggestions?

Well, if you're going to disallow creepy transgender people the right to use the women's room, ought you not also deny creepy biological females the right to use it? But then... where will they go to the bathroom?

(April 22, 2021 at 2:30 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(April 22, 2021 at 2:06 pm)Reforged Wrote: Well if I'm bar staff or a passerby and I noticed Mr Beardy Creepy Anarachy guy pop into the womens bathroom I might be inclined to go "Hm. Thats... huh. I should tell someone about that." If on the other hand hes wearing a cheerleader outfit and he pops in to the womens bathroom or bathroom number 3... now what?
Suggestions?

Well, if you're going to disallow creepy transgender people the right to use the women's room, ought you not also deny creepy biological females the right to use it? But then... where will they go to the bathroom?

Ooooh thats not what I was saying and you know it.
I'm talking the predatory types who don't so much embrace a lifestyle as they do use it for camouflage.
You know, like a catholic priest. Alot of priests believe the stick but for some its just a means to an end.

Honestly, if a person indicates that they have some bathroom hero fantasy going on, about trans people -and I understand that this is just your hypothetical and it;s not you - ....that's the person I would think we might want to keep out of the ladies bathroom. Any public bathroom. Fuck, any place where they might hurt somebody. Actually, maybe we should post guards on them.

(April 22, 2021 at 2:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What's the correct protocol for keeping rapists out of bathrooms -now-?  

Pro-tip, there isn't one, we aren't posting guards.  Some bigots think we should, and not because there are suddenly rapists, but because they're bigots.  It really is that simple.  It's not your job, or bar staffs job, to keep rapists out of bathrooms, and keeping trans people out of bathrooms won't do that if it were your job, anyway.

No no, there aren't *suddenly* rapists. There are rapists, predators, opportunists who (and get this) *lie*. Some of them might decide to... god forbid... *lie* about their lifestyle for easy access to victims.

Thanks for admitting theres no contingency for that eventuality and that you're fully willing to sacrifice peoples safety so people can arbitrarily adjust their pissing habits. Real big of you. 
Some people might be embarrassed by pandering that much but ooooooh, you're a special sausage.