(May 5, 2021 at 4:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 4:24 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: 3 guns?

Bwaaahahahahaaa




Now THAT'S funny!

Three guns was Drich’s recommendation, not mine.

Boru

It''s like saying - you can have 3 tools.

1 screwdriver
1 wrench
1 hammer

Now - rebuild an engine.


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(May 5, 2021 at 5:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 4:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Three guns was Drich’s recommendation, not mine.

Boru

It''s like saying - you can have 3 tools.

1 screwdriver
1 wrench
1 hammer

Now - rebuild an engine.


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Again - you should take this up with Drich.

Boru

(May 5, 2021 at 7:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 5:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It''s like saying - you can have 3 tools.

1 screwdriver
1 wrench
1 hammer

Now - rebuild an engine.


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Again - you should take this up with Drich.

Boru

I'd rather not.

At least you have a sense of humor.



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(May 5, 2021 at 9:59 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 7:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Again - you should take this up with Drich.

Boru

I'd rather not.

At least you have a sense of humor.



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I'd rather you did.

Boru

(May 5, 2021 at 5:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 4:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Three guns was Drich’s recommendation, not mine.

Boru

It''s like saying - you can have 3 tools.

1 screwdriver
1 wrench
1 hammer

Now - rebuild an engine.


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do you not agree everyone should have those three tools? can you imagine anyone not owning a conceal carry pistol of some kind, an AR or any other type of carbine or shot gun? I'm not limiting anyone to those three, i'm saying at the minimum these three are where you should start.

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(May 5, 2021 at 2:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 1:11 pm)Drich Wrote: which lie am i being accused of now? you claim everything you cant refute a lie, which is alot.. i'm having trouble keeping up on which 'lie' your on about now.

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I'm not talking about the bullets being loose enough to shift in the case. i'm talking about once the powder is ignited and the powder starts to burn and build up pressure from the exhaust gass the projectile is released say at 500psi rather than 1500 psi 1000, being needed for a complete burn 1500 needed for a clean burn. a crimp would ensure the projectile stays in place for a clean burn.


either way still sounds like a premature discharge of the projectile. some powders need more pressure than others to burn. which seems to be confirmed by the use of a heavier projectile not have the same problem. maybe the heavy doesn't need the crimp because it's mass keeps it in place longer. also i would not dismiss the other things i mention without checking and ruling them out. I've personally had the same brand and mix but different batch number fire dirty with everything else remaining the same.

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asked and answered already. short answer is guns are tools. and in this country we are allowed free access to said tools. now depending on an individual's familiarity with said tools and the different jobs those tools are needed to complete, some citizens may need more tools than others. I personally recommend 3 as there is no one jack of all trades/one size fits all. 1 for conceal carry. shot gun for home defense. and a carbine/assault rifle for the zombies/hunting. plus 1000 rounds for each gun. times every man woman legally allowed to have one. say 275 million people qualify makes just over 800 million minimum for this current generation, plus those who's skill set require more.

The actual number would be somewhat, though not drastically, lower.

The US has about 328 million people, 74 million of whom are minors who can’t own firearms. This brings us down to 254 million. Say (an admittedly arbitrary) 20% of those are not allowed firearms for various reasons - criminal records, mental instability, whatever. This brings us down to 204 million. Take away the 2 million or so currently incarcerated and rounding down, we get 200 million people at three guns each.

So, at 600 million guns, you can close up shop.

Boru

you forget this is the required minimum according to me. for everyone legally allowed to own a gun. and you also seem to have forgotten that the minors will not stay minors forever in your calculation. not to mention immigrants and those who petition to have their gun rights reinstated. (after 9 years in some states you can get your fire arms rights back even after felony charges)

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again not saying 3 is the limit. i'm saying those three should be mandatory, and you should have 1000 rounds for each and be made to train with those guns. if you want or need more then you have to show proficiency with those three first. then move up to the next level on up to a tank or anti tank or big bore fire arms/cannons.. depending on your own perceived need and budget. I would even go so far to say if you show proficiency and are responsible enough to house such devices the government should help you buy things like tanks if you can afford the storage and up keep.

I do NOT think everyone should own guns.

Even many law abiding people should NOT own a gun.

If you do not have the will to use a firearm in your own defense having a firearm is more a liability than an asset.

Of course no one KNOWS until the moment comes - but no one knows you better than you. So the choice of being armed or not should be a personal choice.

(May 6, 2021 at 10:43 am)Drich Wrote:

(May 5, 2021 at 5:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It''s like saying - you can have 3 tools.

1 screwdriver
1 wrench
1 hammer

Now - rebuild an engine.


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do you not agree everyone should have those three tools? can you imagine anyone not owning a conceal carry pistol of some kind, an AR or any other type of carbine or shot gun? I'm not limiting anyone to those three, i'm saying at the minimum these three are where you should start.

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(May 5, 2021 at 2:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The actual number would be somewhat, though not drastically, lower.

The US has about 328 million people, 74 million of whom are minors who can’t own firearms. This brings us down to 254 million. Say (an admittedly arbitrary) 20% of those are not allowed firearms for various reasons - criminal records, mental instability, whatever. This brings us down to 204 million. Take away the 2 million or so currently incarcerated and rounding down, we get 200 million people at three guns each.

So, at 600 million guns, you can close up shop.

Boru

you forget this is the required minimum according to me. for everyone legally allowed to own a gun. and you also seem to have forgotten that the minors will not stay minors forever in your calculation. not to mention immigrants and those who petition to have their gun rights reinstated. (after 9 years in some states you can get your fire arms rights back even after felony charges)

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again not saying 3 is the limit. i'm saying those three should be mandatory, and you should have 1000 rounds for each and be made to train with those guns. if you want or need more then you have to show proficiency with those three first. then move up to the next level on up to a tank or anti tank or big bore fire arms/cannons.. depending on your own perceived need  and budget. I would even go so far to say if you show proficiency and are responsible enough to house such devices the government should help you buy things like tanks if you can afford the storage and up keep.

Bold mine - 

If I didn't know better, I would think this indicates a sense of humor on Drich's part.

So I better get busy around here we need four more guns, a shit ton of ammo and I need to brush up on my skills with a LAW...are those still a thing?

Husband is going to be pissed that he'll have to house the hotrod he's having built elsewhere to make room for our brand new tank.

Thanks for the morning chuckle.

3gun competition is an advertising strategy that leverages a murder fantasy to move excess product, not a list of required tools. I can't imagine telling people to start there.

22/410 would be my suggestion.

(April 30, 2021 at 1:11 pm)Drich Wrote: My new job has me learning more about firearms than i even knew there was to know. i get a lot of questions at the guns store which has made me take time and research the guns/manufacturers, guns and ammo trends (ammo prices) 2A news and projected legislation, the popular fire arms and of course trying to match up the right fire arm for the right person. not only does a gun need to fit it's intended roll or application in your life but it has to fit you, as if you are intimidated by it you will not practice handling it or firing it and it then becomes more of a liability than a tool intended on some measure of self defense. I can even point you to on line resources to help you find parts ammo and even firearms. This is more of something i enjoy, and would like to share it with anyone thinking about a gun, seeings how the police are leaving in droves under threat of being defunded, and or being replaced with unarmed social workers.

I do not want this turn into a gun debate.. this is more of a technical q&a

So then, ... you gave up being a refrigerator repair man / sold the highly successful refrigeration company to work retail ? 
How fascinating.

(May 6, 2021 at 11:08 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I do NOT think everyone should own guns.

Even many law abiding people should NOT own a gun.

If you do not have the will to use a firearm in your own defense having a firearm is more a liability than an asset.

Of course no one KNOWS until the moment comes - but no one knows you better than you. So the choice of being armed or not should be a personal choice.

could you live with this philosophy without police/2 hour response time?? or in a time and or place where they have been defunded completely, or are you talking about a 10 to 15 min 911 response time?

Your philosophy would not have been possible just one or two generations ago. because back then if you did not have a gun you were prey for someone who did.

So in your mind what changed? did people change to the point society could never fall back into a state where the population preyed on people? a place where the poor and unarmed were habitually brutalized? or did the police/law enforcement beat back and imprisoned enough of those predators to where the streets are full of fairly decent people.

so if police are the linch pin to a peaceful society as apposed to a wild west/colonial times.. and those departments are being defunded and not supported. what makes you think we will not quickly find ourselves back to people preying on each others especially in the cities?

how many semi truck loads of food do you think it will take before the people of a big city turn on one another? how long before they literally start eating each other? (This is what i mean when i reference zombies. I'm not talking about the walking dead but those who eat and prey on people)

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(May 6, 2021 at 11:33 am)arewethereyet Wrote:

(May 6, 2021 at 10:43 am)Drich Wrote: do you not agree everyone should have those three tools? can you imagine anyone not owning a conceal carry pistol of some kind, an AR or any other type of carbine or shot gun? I'm not limiting anyone to those three, i'm saying at the minimum these three are where you should start.

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you forget this is the required minimum according to me. for everyone legally allowed to own a gun. and you also seem to have forgotten that the minors will not stay minors forever in your calculation. not to mention immigrants and those who petition to have their gun rights reinstated. (after 9 years in some states you can get your fire arms rights back even after felony charges)

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again not saying 3 is the limit. i'm saying those three should be mandatory, and you should have 1000 rounds for each and be made to train with those guns. if you want or need more then you have to show proficiency with those three first. then move up to the next level on up to a tank or anti tank or big bore fire arms/cannons.. depending on your own perceived need  and budget. I would even go so far to say if you show proficiency and are responsible enough to house such devices the government should help you buy things like tanks if you can afford the storage and up keep.

Bold mine - 

If I didn't know better, I would think this indicates a sense of humor on Drich's part.

So I better get busy around here we need four more guns, a shit ton of ammo and I need to brush up on my skills with a LAW...are those still a thing?

Husband is going to be pissed that he'll have to house the hotrod he's having built elsewhere to make room for our brand new tank.

Thanks for the morning chuckle.

he will "tank" you later.