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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 12:14 pm
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I think that if the only thing standing between you and getting gut-fucked is whether or not you have a gun, we're far past worrying about society or the types of countries we want to live in. The Mad Max theory of gun ownership doesn't appeal to me.
Is that the sort of dystopian hellhole you observe there from your rural junkyard Biker? You running the risk of getting gut-fucked if you leave your property without a pistol? I thought I had shitty neighbors.....
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 12:47 pm
(July 18, 2022 at 10:05 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (July 18, 2022 at 9:52 am)arewethereyet Wrote: It the 'good guy with a gun' angle. Sure, it happens. Not often, but it happens.
Sometimes even the police do something.... Sometimes....
And school shootings - it' s almost never a law abiding civilian being a good guy with a gun.....
The law abiding tend to obey the " gun free zone" signs.
The anti gun people made this mess by putting those signs up - then blame the law abiding gun owners for the actions of monsters.....
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I’m almost sure that I have never blamed you or any other law abiding gun owner for a school shooting. I think that existing guns laws should be better enforced, but that’s not remotely the same thing - asking law-abiders to put up with a few minor inconveniences to help reduce gun violence isn’t ‘blaming’ them for anything.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 12:49 pm
(July 18, 2022 at 12:10 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I heard on NPR this morning on my way to work that there was a mass shooting at a mall that was stopped by a young man legally carrying a sidearm killing the shooter. A handful dead an injured, probably would have been worse without a level-headed person who was able to respond appropriately.
It’s nice when it happens, of course, but how often does it happen?
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 12:52 pm
Well, I believe there were some 376 good guys with guns at the last mass shooting Biker wanted to talk about...so, at least 376 against to 1 for.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 1:01 pm
(July 18, 2022 at 12:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think that if the only thing standing between you and getting gut-fucked is whether or not you have a gun, we're far past worrying about society or the types of countries we want to live in. The Mad Max theory of gun ownership doesn't appeal to me.
Is that the sort of dystopian hellhole you observe there from your rural junkyard Biker? You running the risk of getting gut-fucked if you leave your property without a pistol? I thought I had shitty neighbors.....
He's afraid of getting gut-fucked because they're still adjusting his anti-psychotics and they haven't given him any relief from his paranoid delusions yet.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 1:02 pm
(July 18, 2022 at 12:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 18, 2022 at 12:10 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I heard on NPR this morning on my way to work that there was a mass shooting at a mall that was stopped by a young man legally carrying a sidearm killing the shooter. A handful dead an injured, probably would have been worse without a level-headed person who was able to respond appropriately.
It’s nice when it happens, of course, but how often does it happen?
Boru Not very - because the monsters tend to go where ordinary citizens are not allowed to carry.
Like schools.
And even then - it' s a good guy with a gun that stops the monsters. Cops can be the good guy with a gun......
They don' t stop because some liberal shit whines....
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 1:21 pm
Who doesn't? The cops or the shooters? True, and redundant, in either case.... I guess.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 1:25 pm
(July 18, 2022 at 1:02 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: And even then - it' s a good guy with a gun that stops the monsters. Cops can be the good guy with a gun...... Ever heard of a thing called "root cause analysis"? You´ll figure out (probably) that lack of good guys is not the problem.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 1:44 pm
(July 18, 2022 at 11:46 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (July 18, 2022 at 11:04 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: The last school shooting in the UK as far as I am aware was the Dunblane massacre 26 years ago, now the question is, which system keeps people safer? (hint, it isn't the American one)
And if you want to live in a country where the only self defense mechanism you can legally buy is a " rape alarm" - enjoy....
Unless of course some monster decides to tear you a new asshole and gut-fuck you to death.... In that case just roll over and enjoy how safe things are......
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RE: THE Gun Thread
July 18, 2022 at 1:57 pm
(July 18, 2022 at 1:02 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (July 18, 2022 at 12:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s nice when it happens, of course, but how often does it happen?
Boru Not very - because the monsters tend to go where ordinary citizens are not allowed to carry.
Like schools.
And even then - it' s a good guy with a gun that stops the monsters. Cops can be the good guy with a gun......
They don' t stop because some liberal shit whines....
It takes some twisty thinking to blame anti-gun people for gun violence. Can’t say I’m not impressed.
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