Nah, they’re fine with that, too. They just don’t feel like defending Kanye West. It’s not as if he’s the first man to try that bit. Hell, he isn’t even a public official.

I see y'all are being hypocrites as usual.

I understand what Kayne is trying to say, The thing is he has horrible delivery. Ye stated "I see good things about Hitler, Every human being has value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.”.  A sentiment that aligns almost exactly with the Anne Frank quote “In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart.".

To quote Jesse Owens “Hitler didn’t snub me—it was [Roosevelt] who snubbed me. The president didn’t even send me a telegram.” Roosevelt never publicly acknowledged Owens’s triumphs—or the triumphs of any of the 18 African Americans who competed at the Berlin Olympics.

Roosevelt wasn't a Nazi, yet he only invited the white Olympians to the White House, but we don't have that same smoke for Roosevelt.

Luz Long, a Nazi that competed against Owens, was the first to congratulate Owens and later walked around the stadium, arm-in-arm with Owens and posed together for pictures.

How are the founding Fathers any different than Hitler? keep the same energy.

Truman dropped two nukes on Women and children, How is he different from Hitler? Keep the same energy.

The Nazis learned their ideology about genocide from the eugenics movement that was happening in America, of which one Margaret Sanger was part of, who advocated for the abortions of babies of the "undesirables", how is she any different from Hitler?, keep the same energy.

Reagan trafficked drugs into "certain" neighborhoods, and then turned and declared war on a problem he in large part created, resulting in mass incarceration, affecting generations, how isn't he just as evil as Hitler? Keep the same energy.

A lot of medical research utilized today came from the Nazis, why wasn't it destroyed?

To be clear, this post isn't a defend of Hitler, the Nazis or Kayne, I'm just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy.

(December 3, 2022 at 12:44 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: To be clear, this post isn't a defend of Hitler, the Nazis or Kayne, I'm just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy.

Of course not, you are just saying that under the right context Hitler and Nazis can be lovable.

(December 3, 2022 at 12:44 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Truman dropped two nukes on Women and children, How is he different from Hitler? Keep the same energy.

Truman nuked Japan for what they did.  Hitler murdered Jews for what they were.

(December 3, 2022 at 1:41 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(December 3, 2022 at 12:44 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Truman dropped two nukes on Women and children, How is he different from Hitler? Keep the same energy.

Truman nuked Japan for what they did.  Hitler murdered Jews for what they were.

So you're saying the Japanese women and children deserved death? Interesting.

(December 3, 2022 at 12:44 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Truman dropped two nukes on Women and children, How is he different from Hitler?

Is that a rhetorical question?
Is this all pretend or are you really so confused?

(December 3, 2022 at 1:47 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:

(December 3, 2022 at 12:44 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Truman dropped two nukes on Women and children, How is he different from Hitler?

Is that a rhetorical question?
Is this all pretend or are you really so confused?

I'm confused, explain it to me.

(December 3, 2022 at 1:45 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(December 3, 2022 at 1:41 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Truman nuked Japan for what they did.  Hitler murdered Jews for what they were.

So you're saying the Japanese women and children deserved death? Interesting.

Truman was trying to end a war. Hitler was trying to exterminate a race. What’s interesting is that you don’t see the difference.

Boru

(December 3, 2022 at 12:44 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: I understand what Kayne is trying to say, The thing is he has horrible delivery. Ye stated "I see good things about Hitler, Every human being has value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.”.  A sentiment that aligns almost exactly with the Anne Frank quote “In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart.".

Uh, I would italicize the word "especially" in that sentence lol. Also that's not the only thing he said about Hitler. Later in the segment he literally says "I like Hitler" and then later, with vigor, "There are a looooot of things I loooooove about Hitler." It's insane rambling.

Quote:To quote Jesse Owens “Hitler didn’t snub me—it was [Roosevelt] who snubbed me. The president didn’t even send me a telegram.” Roosevelt never publicly acknowledged Owens’s triumphs—or the triumphs of any of the 18 African Americans who competed at the Berlin Olympics.

Roosevelt wasn't a Nazi, yet he only invited the white Olympians to the White House, but we don't have that same smoke for Roosevelt.

Luz Long, a Nazi that competed against Owens, was the first to congratulate Owens and later walked around the stadium, arm-in-arm with Owens and posed together for pictures.

How are the founding Fathers any different than Hitler? keep the same energy.

Truman dropped two nukes on Women and children, How is he different from Hitler? Keep the same energy.

The Nazis learned their ideology about genocide from the eugenics movement that was happening in America, of which one Margaret Sanger was part of, who advocated for the abortions of babies of the "undesirables", how is she any different from Hitler?, keep the same energy.

Reagan trafficked drugs into "certain" neighborhoods, and then turned and declared war on a problem he in large part created, resulting in mass incarceration, affecting generations, how isn't he just as evil as Hitler? Keep the same energy.

A lot of medical research utilized today came from the Nazis, why wasn't it destroyed?

To be clear, this post isn't a defend of Hitler, the Nazis or Kayne, I'm just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy.

Dude I (somewhat) agree with you about all of those things but so fucking what? This is all just one massive whataboutism. Also, forgive me for my skepticism, but I have a suspicion that you don't disagree with Kanye on his views on Jews... shall I prod you a bit and see what you really think?

(December 3, 2022 at 1:41 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(December 3, 2022 at 12:44 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Truman dropped two nukes on Women and children, How is he different from Hitler? Keep the same energy.

Truman nuked Japan for what they did.  Hitler murdered Jews for what they were.

Truman nuked Japanese citizens for what the government did**

Fixed for you. What the US did was an absolutely insane war crime. Is it on par with the Holocaust? I don't think so, obviously there are significant differences. I'm not agreeing with Huggy's point that they're ethically equivalent. But please don't buy into the bullshit Western propaganda that dropping the nukes was necessary or justified.