Unless of course you wish to discuss how spacific processes of the bible are possible. I can explain possibility but I cannot prove what has happened did happen a specific way and quite honestly neither can you.

I agree with you about your inability to prove anything. Religious people will never prove anything about their god aside from their belief that it exists. Science is busy looking for real answers. If you can't bring anything worthwhile to the table there, shut the hell up already.

(February 26, 2012 at 1:23 am)chipan Wrote: The fact is I can't prove a negative. I can't prove a spanse of time does not exist no more than I can prove that aliens don't exist. I can say its possible that the earth is that young, but not to say there was no time before that time because no one was there. What you ask is impossible and therefore the only thing left to discuss is the evidence of an old earth and why it is plausable.

The fact is that you can. Again, just more common bs. You could prove that, There is no spanse of time between 12:15AM and 12:15 AM. You could also disprove alien claims, where are they said to be living, what are they said to be doing? Mars? Nope. Crop circles and anal probes? Nope. Disproven. What we ask is not impossible, it is unthinkable, but only to you, because it would undermine your faith.

(February 26, 2012 at 8:25 am)Epimethean Wrote: I agree with you about your inability to prove anything. Religious people will never prove anything about their god aside from their belief that it exists. Science is busy looking for real answers. If you can't bring anything worthwhile to the table there, shut the hell up already.

It is a futile effort though. The religious, christians especially, think that if a certain scientific theory is not enough for them, then their particular worldview must be correct, instead of investigating further as science does.

(February 26, 2012 at 11:37 am)Rhythm Wrote:

(February 26, 2012 at 1:23 am)chipan Wrote: The fact is I can't prove a negative. I can't prove a spanse of time does not exist no more than I can prove that aliens don't exist. I can say its possible that the earth is that young, but not to say there was no time before that time because no one was there. What you ask is impossible and therefore the only thing left to discuss is the evidence of an old earth and why it is plausable.

The fact is that you can. Again, just more common bs. You could prove that, There is no spanse of time between 12:15AM and 12:15 AM. You could also disprove alien claims, where are they said to be living, what are they said to be doing? Mars? Nope. Crop circles and anal probes? Nope. Disproven. What we ask is not impossible, it is unthinkable, but only to you, because it would undermine your faith.

Your comparison is garbage. You can prove mathematical impossibility but time before recorded history is not provable. The only way to know events of history is from historical records. Even those can be Discredited but most accept them as evidence. It's not possible to prove anything in history happened a spacific way without historical records period. In order to prove something it needs to be observed. You can prove a historical event plausable but that's the best you can do because it cannot be observed again (exception of video and photo).

(February 27, 2012 at 3:00 am)chipan Wrote: Your comparison is garbage. You can prove mathematical impossibility but time before recorded history is not provable. The only way to know events of history is from historical records. Even those can be Discredited but most accept them as evidence. It's not possible to prove anything in history happened a spacific way without historical records period. In order to prove something it needs to be observed. You can prove a historical event plausable but that's the best you can do because it cannot be observed again (exception of video and photo).

Its science chippy, you should try to learn something. want an example? Pluto, the recently demoted 'planet', was discovered in 1930, But we know it has an orbital period of 248.09 years, How do we know this, if we never saw it complete one orbit? Physics my boy, and if you knew it, you ouldnt be posting this garbage.

(February 27, 2012 at 6:15 am)LastPoet Wrote:

(February 27, 2012 at 3:00 am)chipan Wrote: Your comparison is garbage. You can prove mathematical impossibility but time before recorded history is not provable. The only way to know events of history is from historical records. Even those can be Discredited but most accept them as evidence. It's not possible to prove anything in history happened a spacific way without historical records period. In order to prove something it needs to be observed. You can prove a historical event plausable but that's the best you can do because it cannot be observed again (exception of video and photo).

Its science chippy, you should try to learn something. want an example? Pluto, the recently demoted 'planet', was discovered in 1930, But we know it has an orbital period of 248.09 years, How do we know this, if we never saw it complete one orbit? Physics my boy, and if you knew it, you ouldnt be posting this garbage.

That is the biggest trick scientists have ever done. Say science is about what was. It is not about what was and it has never been about what was before Darwin. Science has always been about what is. Now science has always had the ability to make predictions. I'll just give medical science as an example. They can make a prediction what's wrong with the patient to determine how they can best treat them. Now they do the treatment and if it works, then it is assumed their guess was right (though sometimes its not). If it doesn't work, then they know they're wrong. This is a scientific process. The problem with evolution and cosmology is that they have no check. They have no way to say "this is my guess now lets see the answer." that is why I don't consider it science.

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And your example of Pluto is not relevant to what i said. I said we can't know what is prehistoric and you gave an example of current movement. Sure we haven't observed a full orbit but it's orbit can be calculated because its movement can and is observed. It's a math problem from there. T=D/V

If you'd be anything honest, you'd at least recognize that you don't know shit about science, what it is, its methods, etc. Your ignorance is unfathomable! This is all I have to say to you....

(February 27, 2012 at 7:36 am)LastPoet Wrote: If you'd be anything honest, you'd at least recognize that you don't know shit about science, what it is, its methods, etc. Your ignorance is unfathomable! This is all I have to say to you....

Can't come up with an arguement? Well sorry but my point still stands regardless of your insult. If you would like to prove me wrong feel free to do so.

He did offer an argument-and a good one-but your colossal ignorance farted it away. You haven't got a leg to stand on here, chip.

You are the Black Knight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4