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What was the actual sacrifice that Jesus made?
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 (August 14, 2012 at 7:40 am)catfish Wrote: All that shows is that you have preconceived notions of what is supposed to be true. OK. Now please answer the question somebody. Regards Grimesy
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon
 (August 14, 2012 at 7:46 am)pgrimes15 Wrote:(August 14, 2012 at 7:40 am)catfish Wrote: All that shows is that you have preconceived notions of what is supposed to be true. God didn't make a sacrifice. You are questioning a pagan doctrine of human sacrifice which goes against everything "God" is supposed to be... Happy now? RE: What was the actual sacrifice that Jesus made?
August 14, 2012 at 8:19 am
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2012 at 8:25 am by pgrimes15.)
(August 14, 2012 at 7:50 am)catfish Wrote: God didn't make a sacrifice. You are questioning a pagan doctrine of human sacrifice which goes against everything "God" is supposed to be...No, not really. Some of my extended family are church goers and one of their core beliefs without exception is that "Jesus died for our sins" or "suffered for us". I have witnessed some of them almost in tears with what they imagined Jesus suffered on their behalf. Another core principle (at this Anglican church) is that the sacrifice of Jesus meant that animal sacrifices as described in the OT were no longer necessary. I am not sure if these positions are theologically correct, but they are undoubtedly what is preached at them from the pulpit (I have heard it). I appreciate that this is not what you think Catfish. Regards Grimesy
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon
 (August 14, 2012 at 8:27 am)Napoléon Wrote:(August 14, 2012 at 7:40 am)catfish Wrote: All that shows is that you have preconceived notions of what is supposed to be true. Awww, does my opinion bother you? He set up the question to fit what he believes is "correct" and allowed no room for another point of view. Sooo, you can fuck off now!  (August 14, 2012 at 6:56 am)pgrimes15 Wrote: This is a question that I asked a few months ago at an Alpha course and got no sensible answer. He was seperated from the Father. He accepted the consenquences that was slated for us/sinners. (August 14, 2012 at 8:30 am)Drich Wrote: He was seperated from the Father. He accepted the consenquences that was slated for us/sinners. Ahh. Getting somewhere now. If the sacrifice was being seperated from the Father, why did he need to be crucified? Doesn't this imply that during Jesus' life the holy trinity became the holy duo ? Regards Grimesy
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon
RE: What was the actual sacrifice that Jesus made?
August 14, 2012 at 8:42 am
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(August 14, 2012 at 8:30 am)catfish Wrote: Awww, does my opinion bother you? Not in the slightest, your arrogant notion that anyone gives a shit about it does. Quote:He set up the question to fit what he believes is "correct" and allowed no room for another point of view. No, he asked for an answer from a specific audience. Has nothing to do with what he believes is correct you fucking moron. If you don't count yourself amongst that audience then why the fuck comment at all. Again, you obviously think anyone gives a shit. Quote:Sooo, you can fuck off now! Gladly, just chimed in to let you know how much of a twat you are. 
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Well, meow-fish is on the possession of the One True Truth™ (Pardon the redundancy), AHHAHAHAHAH
 Really, is there a limit to such a vaunted arrogance? 
He sacrificed his own life for the belief in God. He wouldn't denounce Christianity. He'd rather die for his beliefs, in the hope others would follow.
I would denounce it rather than die. But my opinion is that Jesus never existed. He's part of Greek mythology. He only spoke in parables, or Greek philosophy, rather. No one speaks like that all the time. If you are studying the New International Bible, can you please glance through Matthew/mark/Luke/John.? In one verse it says Jesus is somewhere [I can't recall which town] and he is saying he is the son of God. A woman says...'but you are a Greek.' Can you find which page/verse it is in please? |
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