(August 15, 2012 at 9:06 pm)apophenia Wrote: I don't object to him posting this. But it's sad to see someone so efficiently painting themselves as a real tool.

Lighten up. Make some friends. Talk about your views, not how "it's all them evil other people." You'll live longer and have more fun. And probably convince more people to consider your side of things.

I couldn't agree more.

What follows is not targeting the OP or conservatives in general, but rather speaks to all participants in controversial / political discussions. It's also my personal opinion (i.e. the staff hat is off).

Arguing for arguments' sake grows tiresome and generates far more heat than light. Having been on vastly different sides of the political spectrum, I see this sort of thing (viewing the opposition as evil, or stupid, etc) from all sides to varying degrees. While people in power may in fact be motivated by personal gain etc, around here we're just regular people with honest differences in opinion.

It's pretty difficult to convince someone to reconsider their position or see the merits of yours that way, in my opinion.

(August 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(August 15, 2012 at 4:41 pm)A Theist Wrote: I think walking into a place with the intent of killing people is a pretty villainous act no matter who or which side is doing the shooting. Wouldn't you agree?

No more villainous than if the other side happen to be abortion providers. Let's see you genuine rage next when an abortion provider is targeted.

Killing abortion doctors is wrong for the exact same reason killing these people is wrong...

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Quote:I don't know why you're making this a believer / non-believer issue. This incident is completely unrelated to that.

Bullshit. Such nuance is lost on an asshole like you.

Oh, boy. Lion has popped in with a picture of a fetus far beyond legal abortion stage. How fucking inflammatory.

Well I didnt raise the issue of abortion.

Anyway.....

(August 15, 2012 at 5:47 pm)frankiej Wrote:

(August 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm)A Theist Wrote: I don't know why you're making this a believer / non-believer issue. This incident is completely unrelated to that. The investigation is still ongoing and no one knows much about the shooter yet except that he had some issues with FRC.

Do you post every article you find about a gunman not killing anyone???

Quote:A gunman who posed as an intern and carrying a Chick-fil-A bag...

Surely the Chick-fil-A reference is the thing that makes this story stand out.

The shooter has been identified as 28 year old Floyd Corkins who is a volunteer at a LGBT center. So far the shooting seems to be politically motivated....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l?ITO=1490

You might not have raised the issue of abortion, but you posted a misleading photo, as most womb invaders do. I'm not a fan of abortion, but I'm not stupid enough to think it is legal to abort a baby that looks like it might be born any second. Equating flushing out a small group of cells with the murder of a living, breathing doctor is stupidity. Plain and simple.

(August 15, 2012 at 10:47 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:

(August 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm)Chuck Wrote: No more villainous than if the other side happen to be abortion providers. Let's see you genuine rage next when an abortion provider is targeted.

Killing abortion doctors is wrong for the exact same reason killing these people is wrong...

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At this angle it looks like the Star Child at the end of 2001: A Space Odessey.

Or could it be the fetus of Hitler. Any additional information would be helpful.

(August 15, 2012 at 10:47 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Killing abortion doctors is wrong for the exact same reason killing these people is wrong...

That's an excellent justification for breaking the First Commandment.

Holy shit! That is Star Child! Nice catch. Oh, wait. Maybe not. I had a moment of blurring images when you mentioned it, but it's not.

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I followed the trail of the photo by the url and that is a fetus at 17 weeks. That is five weeks past the abortion cut-off for 88% of abortions.