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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 4:42 am
(February 11, 2013 at 3:10 am)justin Wrote: Catfish will probably say something then contradict himself when stimbo or someone points it out followed by drich and whatever drugs he hoped up on. Good luck on finding a good explanation. And go!
LOL! Seriously?
I challenge you to show me where I have contradicted myself...
A little over a week here and I'm already on your mind? I wonder why that would be?
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 4:45 am
(February 11, 2013 at 4:42 am)catfish Wrote: (February 11, 2013 at 3:10 am)justin Wrote: Catfish will probably say something then contradict himself when stimbo or someone points it out followed by drich and whatever drugs he hoped up on. Good luck on finding a good explanation. And go!
LOL! Seriously?
I challenge you to show me where I have contradicted myself...
A little over a week here and I'm already on your mind? I wonder why that would be?
Do you have anything theological to add to this thread, or are you going to rant about your unique beliefs without actually elaborating on what you believe again?
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 4:46 am
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(February 11, 2013 at 2:59 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Simple question: for those of you who believe Genesis is but mere poetry and not history, what does that imply about the New Testament? What does Paul actually mean when he says "through one man, sin entered the world" in Romans 5:12 and why did Jesus need to be crucified to revert the effects of an allegory?
This might have come up before in threads. I just wanted a clear and definite answer to this in order to help me construct an argument I'm working on.
Thanks very much.
Paul's saying was most likely a fabrication to support the notion that human sacrifice was needed for atonement. I believe neither statement...
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Fuck man, you just couldn't wait to jump on me? WTF???
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 4:51 am
catfish Wrote:Fuck man, you just couldn't wait to jump on me? WTF???
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Yeah I wonder why...
Quote:Paul's saying was most likely a fabrication to support the notion that human sacrifice was needed for atonement. I believe neither statement...
Oh that's why, because I prophesied that you wouldn't act any differently.
Instead of saying what you're not, can you please start with stating what you are? Otherwise I'm going to have to wait 30 000+ posts for you to finally have ruled out every possible denomination you fall under in order to finally understand your beliefs.
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 4:53 am
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You can fuck off, you had me fooled...
Figure shit out on your own, stop expecting the answer to be spoon-fed to you.
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 4:57 am
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(February 11, 2013 at 4:53 am)catfish Wrote: You can fuck off, you had me fooled...
Well, it's my thread. Don't post here if you don't have anything meaningful to add.
Quote:Figure shit out on your own, stop expecting the answer to be spoon-fed to you.
Ok. The Bible is an ancient book filled with superstitious lies.
QED.
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 5:02 am
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OK, you want meaningful?
You have your mind made up and you don't really want an answer. You want something that you think you can pick apart and ridicule. You lost "reason" as soon as you closed your mind to alternative explanations. You take what other people tell you as "fact" (term used loosely) without applying any type of free-thinker logic. You are just like every other sheeple...
Was that "meaningful" enough?
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(February 11, 2013 at 4:57 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Ok. The Bible is an ancient book filled with superstitious lies.
QED.
And I'm right again...
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 5:09 am
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(February 11, 2013 at 5:02 am)catfish Wrote: OK, you want meaningful?
You have your mind made up and you don't really want an answer. You want something that you think you can pick apart and ridicule. You lost "reason" as soon as you closed your mind to alternative explanations. You take what other people tell you as "fact" (term used loosely) without applying any type of free-thinker logic. You are just like every other sheeple...
Was that "meaningful" enough?
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It's a start. Now how about you take up the challenge and answer my free-thinking-inspired thread? I stated before I'm looking for any answer that shows it's sensical to believe Genesis to be allegorical all the while showing how it relates to literal events in the NT.
P.s. you of all people would have an interesting answer I would expect. Otherwise all your ranting about "unique beliefs" is in vain.
Quote:And I'm right again...
You think you've won without even being able to produce an explanation for what you believe? Hilarious.
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Re: RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 5:09 am
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(February 11, 2013 at 3:59 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Your definitions of "literally" and "non-literally" are back to front. That's not a reassuring start at all.........
Right, so "literally" Genesis poetically describes the relationship between God and man. A-ha, so you're up to speed with my dad i.e. you're telling me you believe Genesis is not history. Great, we just reiterated the OP. Now onto the question at hand:
What does this mean in terms of the saviour of the world? Why did he die for you? What did he save us from, an ambiguous and confused poem that proves itself to be too futile to produce a sound theology that answers the question "what did he save us from"? Back to front: yes definately to modern misunderstanding.
Poetically, not exactly. Literally theological, but I assume you knew this. But you say I'm on a par with your dad, which I clearly am not??
Jesus saves us from sin in this theological construct. Not some fabricated logical car crash of poetry/ pseudo science.
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RE: Theology Based On An Allegorical Genesis
February 11, 2013 at 5:32 am
(February 11, 2013 at 5:09 am)FallentoReason Wrote: You think you've won without even being able to produce an explanation for what you believe? Hilarious.
How blind are you to the words that you wrote? It was a loaded question that I answered despite your flawed wording and you weren't happy with my answer. You then confirm what I said about you being closed-minded and now you expect me to explain?
And for the record, I haven't won, you've lost... (if you can understand what I mean by that, you have a chance)
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