(March 29, 2013 at 12:35 am)Tex Wrote:

Mr Infidel Wrote:Then how can he be a good god, ignoring the plight of a young child who desperately needs his assistance?

The need is not desperate. The protection is not mandatory. The needs we have he gives. He gives us hope for that resurrection after death and we all will live without the plight we currently have. For those that have chosen the contract, the life during the time after resurrection, will be awesome. It does not say that to the others. In fact, at least in comparison, it will be like a pit of lava.

Sorry - but reality says differently

For those children who starve to death every day - their need WAS desperate.

Obviously - the protection they got from a "god" did not exist.

ANd if he gave - they would still be alive

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(March 29, 2013 at 8:01 pm)catfish Wrote:

(March 29, 2013 at 7:53 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Christians have been concerned about that stuff forever. That is no big news. Have you ever been to a church? Even the Bible itself is concerned with pagan influences, 1 Jn is written against false teachers as many other books are. Have you ever read through the Bible from start to finish and just listened to the text, ready to follow it as you recognize God?

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I see your problem. Follow God and not the book...

Fine - now prove a god exists - and it is YOURS.
To date - there is NO proven god to follow - and YOU won't provide an proof otherwise

(March 31, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ThomM Wrote: Fine - now prove a god exists - and it is YOURS...there is NO proven god to follow - and YOU won't provide an proof otherwise

What you really mean is no proof that you would accept.

Here is something to read and check out if you want to:
http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/2...stence.htm

(April 1, 2013 at 10:07 am)ChadWooters Wrote:

(March 31, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ThomM Wrote: Fine - now prove a god exists - and it is YOURS...there is NO proven god to follow - and YOU won't provide an proof otherwise

What you really mean is no proof that you would accept.

No, he means no proof that would mkae you any more correct than a Muslim or a Greek mythologist.

ThomM Wrote:Sorry - but reality says differently

For those children who starve to death every day - their need WAS desperate.

Obviously - the protection they got from a "god" did not exist.

ANd if he gave - they would still be alive

This is not paradise. All are going to die. God is not going to prevent it. But, never will we "not exist" and one day again our God promises resurrection; we will all get new bodies. Then, by God's own hand, his people shall never experience any sort of suffering again.

(April 2, 2013 at 12:58 pm)Tex Wrote: Then, by God's own hand, his people shall never experience any sort of suffering again.

What about all the people that are sent to Hell to be tortured for eternity? Some of them may even be your friends or family members.

Will that not cause you suffering knowing that they are being tortured for eternity?

(April 2, 2013 at 1:25 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(April 2, 2013 at 12:58 pm)Tex Wrote: Then, by God's own hand, his people shall never experience any sort of suffering again.

What about all the people that are sent to Hell to be tortured for eternity? Some of them may even be your friends or family members.

Will that not cause you suffering knowing that they are being tortured for eternity?

Aha! Someone who thinks they know what's in the Bible?
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Hell is a source of comfort for those who accept that sin requires punishment. God will be fair to each, perhaps he will give people another chance. But the fact that sin is punished is a comfort for people who long to see the wicked eat the fruit of their deeds, a sign of inner purity, not of weakness.

(April 2, 2013 at 8:55 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Hell is a source of comfort for those who accept that sin requires punishment. The fact that sin is punished is a comfort for people who long to see the wicked eat the fruit of their deeds.

You know who else likes to see others suffer? Sociopaths, due to their lack of empathy. If you enjoy the thought of others suffering, you obviously lack empathy.

MrInfidel, do you think it is pathological to want there to be justice if someone is murdered?