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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 3:52 pm
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(July 11, 2013 at 3:39 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 3:28 pm)ronedee Wrote: This is an easy one! My words are based in "Good". And God is?
Oh! Oh! I know this game! We're going to play the "God is..." game!
God is...cheese!
God is...a Ninja Turtle!
God is...Skittles!
Oh...the answer was "God is good"? Damn...leading us to your presuppostions again.
Quote:So, mine are inspired. His are doubt and misinformation.
One has to think GOOD thoughts to think "like" God...I didn't say "as" God does.
I thought thinking Good thoughts helped us to fly when pixie dust is sprinkled on us.
Oh, right, different work of fiction. My bad.
I thought you were looking for answers? So far all you've done is added romper room quotes.
Where in the bible does it say anything about pixie dust? as opposed to God being "Good"?
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 4:15 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 3:52 pm)ronedee Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 3:39 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Oh! Oh! I know this game! We're going to play the "God is..." game!
God is...cheese!
God is...a Ninja Turtle!
God is...Skittles!
Oh...the answer was "God is good"? Damn...leading us to your presuppostions again.
I thought thinking Good thoughts helped us to fly when pixie dust is sprinkled on us.
Oh, right, different work of fiction. My bad.
I thought you were looking for answers? So far all you've done is added romper room quotes.
Where in the bible does it say anything about pixie dust? as opposed to God being "Good"?
Oh, you're being serious? Indeed, I jest a bit whilst making valid points. Your disapproval is noted, but it won't deter me from pointing out the flaws in your own flippant arguments.
"Where in the bible does it say antying about pixie dust?" I can play this game too!
Where in the Bible does it say anything about "original sin"?
Where in the Bible does it say anything about worshipping and praying to saints?
Where in the Bible does it say that God works in mysterious ways?
Where in the Bible does it ever say anything about there being a Hell?
Where in the Bible does it say anything about Angels having wings?
Where in the Bible does it show the devil as being red with horns and a pitchfork?
Where in the Bible does it mention a Holy Grail?
Ah...erm...ahem. Oh, right, back to my original point.
You see, I mentioned pixie dust as a joke, knowing that it came from the story of Peter Pan. Not only that, but I even poked fun at myself for first attributing it to the Bible, when in fact I already knew that it wasn't there. You are arguing just to argue, and it's hilarious.
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm
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(July 11, 2013 at 4:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 3:52 pm)ronedee Wrote: I thought you were looking for answers? So far all you've done is added romper room quotes.
Where in the bible does it say anything about pixie dust? as opposed to God being "Good"?
Oh, you're being serious? Indeed, I jest a bit whilst making valid points. Your disapproval is noted, but it won't deter me from pointing out the flaws in your own flippant arguments.
"Where in the bible does it say antying about pixie dust?" I can play this game too! 
Where in the Bible does it say anything about "original sin"?
Where in the Bible does it say anything about worshipping and praying to saints?
Where in the Bible does it say that God works in mysterious ways?
Where in the Bible does it ever say anything about there being a Hell?
Where in the Bible does it say anything about Angels having wings?
Where in the Bible does it show the devil as being red with horns and a pitchfork?
Where in the Bible does it mention a Holy Grail?
Ah...erm...ahem. Oh, right, back to my original point.
You see, I mentioned pixie dust as a joke, knowing that it came from the story of Peter Pan. Not only that, but I even poked fun at myself for first attributing it to the Bible, when in fact I already knew that it wasn't there. You are arguing just to argue, and it's hilarious.
And who is asking me questions? I didn't offer anything as an argument. I refuted all the crap(see your posts) flung at me and God's word.
I [said] the bible says "God is Good".... Its actually there in a few THOUSAND quotes!
I don't care about anything else you are trying to portray about God. Because frankly, nothing else matters after that statement. Nothing.
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm
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(July 11, 2013 at 3:28 pm)ronedee Wrote: Where and when does Jesus say that?
Quote:The Bible repeatedly and clearly states that God cannot be known except if He reveals himself.
Matt 11:27 … no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
John 1:18 - No one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.
I Cor. 1:21 - the world through its wisdom did not come to know God.
It follows logically then that the acts of God cannot be known except God reveals them. How God Did or Does anything cannot be known without revelation from God himself.
Ecc. 11:5 - Just as you do not know the path of the wind or how bones are formed in the womb of a pregnant woman, so you do not know the activity of God who makes all things.
Ecc. 3:11 - no man can find out the work that God makes from the beginning to the end.
http://www.truthdefined.com/73-TheUnknowableGod.htm
Considering that god is merely a delusion of the faithful, it is a moot point that the bible mentions god can only be known if he decides to reveal himself to someone. It is a rather convenient excuse, if one thinks on it long enough, for plenty of ex-theists were devout in their belief yet never experienced god's presence. Those who claim to know god are merely delusional, and their experiences can easily be explained by science as the mind tricking the individual.
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 4:52 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: And who is asking me questions? I didn't offer anything as an argument. I refuted all the crap(see your posts) flung at me and God's word.
You refuted something? (looks back a ways) ...huh? With what evidence?
(July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: I [said] the bible says "God is Good".... Its actually there in a few THOUSAND quotes!
Now I think you're a Troll, because you're clearly either lying to me, or you just have never read your own holy book.
God is only mentioned as being good TWICE in the Bible, the first being in reference only to Israel (the Jews) and the second one is a bit of a stretch.
• Psa 73:1 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.
• 1 Tim 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Now can you please show some evidence before you make any more wild claims like the one above?
(July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: I don't care about anything else you are trying to portray about God. Because frankly, nothing else matters after that statement. Nothing.
Would you care if I painted a picture of your god using the words of your own bible? I can do that, if you'd like.
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 3:28 pm)ronedee Wrote: Where and when does Jesus say that?
Quote:The Bible repeatedly and clearly states that God cannot be known except if He reveals himself.
Matt 11:27 … no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
John 1:18 - No one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.
I Cor. 1:21 - the world through its wisdom did not come to know God.
It follows logically then that the acts of God cannot be known except God reveals them. How God Did or Does anything cannot be known without revelation from God himself.
Ecc. 11:5 - Just as you do not know the path of the wind or how bones are formed in the womb of a pregnant woman, so you do not know the activity of God who makes all things.
Ecc. 3:11 - no man can find out the work that God makes from the beginning to the end.
http://www.truthdefined.com/73-TheUnknowableGod.htm
And I could give you dozens more quotes either way! BUT....
"Seek and ye shall find, ask and the door will be open to you."
So, where does God NOT want to be revealed.. Except to those who choose so?
And this is another reason why [free will] is so important to God's plan.
You get to choose Him. Or not. What a deal...huh?
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 5:03 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm)ronedee Wrote: You get to choose Him. Or not. What a deal...huh?
One can choose to believe in anything, even the flying spaghetti monster, but it does not mean that the belief is grounded in reality. Belief in god is as far from reality as belief in leprechauns.
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 5:06 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm)ronedee Wrote: You get to choose Him.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 5:13 pm
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(July 11, 2013 at 4:52 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: And who is asking me questions? I didn't offer anything as an argument. I refuted all the crap(see your posts) flung at me and God's word.
You refuted something? (looks back a ways) ...huh? With what evidence?
I hate looking back! But "pixie dust" comes to mind for stupid crap.
(July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: I [said] the bible says "God is Good".... Its actually there in a few THOUSAND quotes!
Now I think you're a Troll, because you're clearly either lying to me, or you just have never read your own holy book.
God is only mentioned as being good TWICE in the Bible, the first being in reference only to Israel (the Jews) and the second one is a bit of a stretch.
• Psa 73:1 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.
• 1 Tim 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Now can you please show some evidence before you make any more wild claims like the one above?
(July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: I don't care about anything else you are trying to portray about God. Because frankly, nothing else matters after that statement. Nothing.
Would you care if I painted a picture of your god using the words of your own bible? I can do that, if you'd like.
Actually there are three actual (Matt 10:18)"Good" quotes.. But maybe I should've referenced Him "as good". So crucify me!
And no don't use the bible... its uncomely for you as a heathen to reference the bible. At least when you are trying to make God look bad!
...Fire away at me though!
(July 11, 2013 at 5:03 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm)ronedee Wrote: You get to choose Him. Or not. What a deal...huh?
One can choose to believe in anything, even the flying spaghetti monster, but it does not mean that the belief is grounded in reality. Belief in god is as far from reality as belief in leprechauns.
And your point?
I don't tell you to believe in ANYTHING! YOU are the one telling me there is nothing to believe in.
Because it aint in your face?
What do you really know about anything?
Does life exist in other galaxies? Is it as "far from reality [as say] Leprechauns?"
Well...geeee...you can't see it! So it mustn't exist!
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RE: God his own Enemy
July 11, 2013 at 5:30 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 5:13 pm)ronedee Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 4:52 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: You refuted something? (looks back a ways) ...huh? With what evidence?
I hate looking back! But "pixie dust" comes to mind for stupid crap.
Aha! Technically I refuted that one in the selfsame post. It seems you're more interested in arguing with me than you are actually taking the time to read what I say.
(July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: And no don't use the bible... its uncomely for you as a heathen to reference the bible. At least when you are trying to make God look bad!
...Fire away at me though!
You have to be certain you want me to. The vibe I'm getting is that you're a little timid and ambiguous in actually hearing what I have to say about God, citing his character from the bible itself. So...will you read what I write if I write it?
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