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The simple truth
RE: The simple truth
Gentlemen, what we have here is a genuine crackpot.
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I would have to have a very low standard of evidence to believe that you exist if all you did was say you exist and send a picture. That picture could be anyone at all.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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(February 14, 2014 at 4:27 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I would have to have a very low standard of evidence to believe that you exist if all you did was say you exist and send a picture. That picture could be anyone at all.

So you don't believe that I am a human being?
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(February 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm)The Good News Wrote: I wasn't playing anything. I will try to explain what I meant:

If I was to say to you that it is true that I am a human being that is typing on a computer, and you said "no, I don't believe it, you do not exist." Then I sent you a picture of myself but you still denied my existence, would I expect you to believe that I exist because I sent you that picture? No, I would expect you to believe I exist because I exist. If you don't believe I exist it is your own folly.

What you are saying is more like this: you tell us you are really an ostrich wearing a bow tie. When we express doubt, you tell us that your brother, who is sitting next to you, can verify that this is true. Your "brother" types out the message "yes, he is an ostrich wearing a bow tie." When we still express doubt, you tell us that he is telling the truth because he is your brother and he's really a pretty honest guy.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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(February 14, 2014 at 4:31 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(February 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm)The Good News Wrote: I wasn't playing anything. I will try to explain what I meant:

If I was to say to you that it is true that I am a human being that is typing on a computer, and you said "no, I don't believe it, you do not exist." Then I sent you a picture of myself but you still denied my existence, would I expect you to believe that I exist because I sent you that picture? No, I would expect you to believe I exist because I exist. If you don't believe I exist it is your own folly.

What you are saying is more like this: you tell us you are really an ostrich wearing a bow tie. When we express doubt, you tell us that your brother, who is sitting next to you, can verify that this is true. Your "brother" types out the message "yes, he is an ostrich wearing a bow tie." When we still express doubt, you tell us that he is telling the truth because he is your brother and he's really a pretty honest guy.

And if I were an ostrich wearing a bow tie it would be true because it was true. Not because I gave you the evidence for it.
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RE: The simple truth
Are u soft?
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RE: The simple truth
And how are we supposed to know that it is true? Because you said so?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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(February 14, 2014 at 4:36 pm)The Good News Wrote: And if I were an ostrich wearing a bow tie it would be true because it was true. Not because I gave you the evidence for it.

Well, at least the bolded part is accurate where the Bible is concerned.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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(February 14, 2014 at 4:37 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Are u soft?

Well you tell me. Is something only true when evidence is given for it?
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No, but you should only believe in something if there is evidence for it.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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