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Christians. Could you be wrong?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 3:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is everything that I have done that is wrong according to the Bible. We all deserve Hell for things we have done in are lifes.

That's what we in the biz call an assertion. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, as the saying goes. What is your case that we deserve this infinite punishment for things we've done in our finite lives?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm (This post was last modified: September 17, 2014 at 4:39 pm by C4RM5.)
(September 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Guys, guys, guys...... Here, try this. [Image: passing-joint-smiley-emoticon.gif]

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(September 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 3:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is everything that I have done that is wrong according to the Bible. We all deserve Hell for things we have done in are lifes.

That's what we in the biz call an assertion. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, as the saying goes. What is your case that we deserve this infinite punishment for things we've done in our finite lives?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:40 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 4:37 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think the question should be what haven't I done.
You are also punishiable for not doing things in life, for example denying God.
I ask again, if you deserve an eternity in hell, why would you seek to avoid it via a convenient loophole? If you've spent your life spitting in god's face, would you really feel good about yourself because you took advantage of his generous nature to avoid paying for it? Wouldn't that make you an EVEN WORSE PERSON???
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:40 pm
I have a sneaking suspicion that you've fully realized the problems with your claims at this point CR.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:41 pm (This post was last modified: September 17, 2014 at 4:42 pm by C4RM5.)
(September 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 4:37 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think the question should be what haven't I done.
You are also punishiable for not doing things in life, for example denying God.
So the whole "jesus dying for my sins" isn't all that effective then, if I am still going to hell just for not believing in him.
It is effective, Jesus died on the cross so all who believe in him should not die but have every lasting life.
(September 17, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I have a sneaking suspicion that you've fully realized the problems with your claims at this point CR.

I haven't noticed anything wrong with my claims.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:42 pm (This post was last modified: September 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Meh, count me out, I have this thing called a moral sense. You see, I'm a good person - and if I've done something wrong, I understand and expect to have to pay for that. I'm not going to compound my misdeeds by evading the consequences.

So, it's not that you've realized there is a problem with your claims and are thusly shrinking, you're just posting single word non answers for the hell of it? Okay, I guess?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 4:41 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So the whole "jesus dying for my sins" isn't all that effective then, if I am still going to hell just for not believing in him.
It is effective, Jesus died on the cross so all who believe in him should not die but have every lasting life.
(September 17, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I have a sneaking suspicion that you've fully realized the problems with your claims at this point CR.

I haven't noticed anything wrong with my claims.
I get all warm and fuzzy inside when you say I deserve to be tortured forever. You sure know how to seduce a guy~
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:44 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 4:37 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think the question should be what haven't I done.
You are also punishiable for not doing things in life, for example denying God.
I ask again, if you deserve an eternity in hell, why would you seek to avoid it via a convenient loophole? If you've spent your life spitting in god's face, would you really feel good about yourself because you took advantage of his generous nature to avoid paying for it? Wouldn't that make you an EVEN WORSE PERSON???

I don't believe I took advantage. I thank God for it and am deeply sorry when I sin.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:45 pm
Just not sorry enough to man up and do the time, eh?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:45 pm (This post was last modified: September 17, 2014 at 4:46 pm by C4RM5.)
(September 17, 2014 at 4:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Meh, count me out, I have this thing called a moral sense. You see, I'm a good person - and if I've done something wrong, I understand and expect to have to pay for that. I'm not going to compound my misdeeds by evading the consequences.

So, it's not that you've realized there is a problem with your claims and are thusly shrinking, you're just posting single word non answers for the hell of it? Okay, I guess?

I am posting single word answers because I agree with your question.

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