God sounds like a dick.

(December 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: Paul taught this over and over. Only those who reject God will be judged by them and at the judgment no one will be able to argue before God, actually that's one thing people in hell will be doing, God doesn't deny your chance to argue, He has limited it to a certain place.

GC

And what a pleasant man Paul was. A mysogynist of the highest order, who was averse to almost every pleasure in life. Also he liked his slaves subordinant and obedient to even cruel masters.

A real role model.

(December 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Godschild Wrote:

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(December 3, 2014 at 5:05 pm)Losty Wrote: : O

Go back and re-read what you wrote? God sounds a lot like my ex-husband. How could a loving god create people to be a certain way and then make all these laws that are impossible to follow?
I don't want to hurt you...you make me do it. That's fucking disgusting.

I do not make you do anything, you choose to do so of your own accord.
There is nothing wrong with what I said, just because you believe there is doesn't make it so.
God did not create people to be a certain way, sin has corrupted all people, sin is our responsibility, giving us freedom from that sin was God's responsibility and He did so through Jesus. Those laws were for one thing, if you had studied scriptures you should have known what they are for. You've mentioned you have been to Baptist churches and they definitely teach the purpose of the laws. Since you seemed to have missed it, they were given to expose the sin in peoples lives, Paul taught this over and over. Only those who reject God will be judged by them and at the judgment no one will be able to argue before God, actually that's one thing people in hell will be doing, God doesn't deny your chance to argue, He has limited it to a certain place.

GC

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I wasn't saying you make me do anything. I was saying your god sounds like an abusive husband saying "I don't want to hurt you, you make me do it".
I have passed the point of argument GC. If I die and your god is real, I would spit in his face before taking my leave. No arguments necessary. There's nothing in hell that could be as terrible as eternity in heaven with that monster.

(December 3, 2014 at 5:28 pm)Losty Wrote:

(December 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: God has given you the free will to make yourself into what ever you desire, He allowed you to be born and gave you a soul as a guide through which the Holy Spirit works. If you ignore the Holy Spirit, who is God, then it's not His fault. Your correct He does not make mistakes, He gives you the ability to choose righteously, but is you that believes it's not important to live that way and in that type of thinking comes the mistake, from you.
I'm not trying to upset you, I'm trying to show you how things are because of who God is.

GC
GC

Dude wake up. He didn't allow me to be born. If your god is real he forced me to be born. Knowing that given the free will and the lack of evidence I would choose not to believe. He would have already known my choice and yet he would have created me anyways. Don't forget he's the one who created hell for the "evil" people that he created. Again, exactly like my ex husband. I give you everything you want and need and all I ask in return is that you give me things you are incapable of giving, but you can't. Why do you want to make me hurt you? Don't you know I love you?
Maybe my exhusband is god's long lost twin.

So, God forced you father to rape your mother so you would be born, interesting, exactly where in the scriptures did you get that idea, I've never seen it and would like to read it to become better educated.
At one time you chose to believe, you've stated so in other posts, then you chose not to believe, don't see where God forced you to do either. God did not create evil people, where in scripture did you get that notion. People chose to be evil. The only thing God ask you to give is yourself, yourself through Christ, He does so to give you a life full of His peace and love, all you have to do is accept it, yes it requires service to Him. Tell me where else can you get such a deal. I've never known a person who can do that, not even my mom and she could come closer than anyone else I know. By the way she would tell you the same thing, why, because she relies on God's love and peace.

GC

"M,m,momma said-"

(December 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Losty Wrote:

(December 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not make you do anything, you choose to do so of your own accord.
There is nothing wrong with what I said, just because you believe there is doesn't make it so.
God did not create people to be a certain way, sin has corrupted all people, sin is our responsibility, giving us freedom from that sin was God's responsibility and He did so through Jesus. Those laws were for one thing, if you had studied scriptures you should have known what they are for. You've mentioned you have been to Baptist churches and they definitely teach the purpose of the laws. Since you seemed to have missed it, they were given to expose the sin in peoples lives, Paul taught this over and over. Only those who reject God will be judged by them and at the judgment no one will be able to argue before God, actually that's one thing people in hell will be doing, God doesn't deny your chance to argue, He has limited it to a certain place.

GC

I wasn't saying make me do anything. I was saying your god sounds like an abusive husband saying "I don't want to hurt you, you make me do it".
I have passed the point of argument GC. If I die and your god is real, I would spit in his face before taking my leave. No arguments necessary. There's nothing in hell that could be as terrible as eternity in heaven with that monster.

Good luck with that, think an all powerful God will allow you to spit in His face at judgment, guess you'll have to wait and see. If you're pass the point of argument, I'm assuming I want hear from you again.

GC

Thanks for the threats GC, seems like that's the only thing theists can resort to..

(December 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: Good luck with that, think an all powerful God will allow you to spit in His face at judgment, guess you'll have to wait and see. If you're pass the point of argument, I'm assuming I want hear from you again.

GC

Playing HM and Drich. Too little smileys, some more.

(December 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(December 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Losty Wrote: I wasn't saying make me do anything. I was saying your god sounds like an abusive husband saying "I don't want to hurt you, you make me do it".
I have passed the point of argument GC. If I die and your god is real, I would spit in his face before taking my leave. No arguments necessary. There's nothing in hell that could be as terrible as eternity in heaven with that monster.

Good luck with that, think an all powerful God will allow you to spit in His face at judgment, guess you'll have to wait and see. If you're pass the point of argument, I'm assuming I want hear from you again.

GC

And, once again, a religionist resorts to threats of their imaginary hell.

What a limited imagination you must have.

RJA

(December 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: So, God forced you father to rape your mother so you would be born, interesting, exactly where in the scriptures did you get that idea, I've never seen it and would like to read it to become better educated.

No idiot. "I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb"
I didn't ask to be formed. Your god supposedly formed me. If he did so he did it without my consent.

GC Wrote:At one time you chose to believe

I never chose to believe. I was indoctrinated as a child.

GC Wrote:, you've stated so in other posts, then you chose not to believe, don't see where God forced you to do either.

Of course he didn't but if he's real he already knew I would make these choices before he ever created me.

GC Wrote:God did not create evil people, where in scripture did you get that notion. People chose to be evil.

Are you saying god didn't create evil? Are you telling me that there are things in existence that god did not create?

Quote:The only thing God ask you to give is yourself, yourself through Christ, He does so to give you a life full of His peace and love, all you have to do is accept it, yes it requires service to Him. Tell me where else can you get such a deal. I've never known a person who can do that, not even my mom and she could come closer than anyone else I know. By the way she would tell you the same thing, why, because she relies on God's love and peace.

GC

I don't wish to serve your god GC. I don't wish to live a life full of his peace and love. I'll remind you that I was once a believer since you forgot within your own post. I don't know what peace feels like but I'm working on it. I gave my life to a god I thought was real. The one I learned of in the bible. I was saved before I was old enough to understand the implications. I was resaved often. Recommitting myself yearly and truly wanting to serve the god of the bible with all my heart. I gave myself to him and I was given "love" in return. Love was something that disgusted me, terrified me. Not all Christians have the same life as I did, but I'm just saying I believed, GC, I truly believed and I had faith and I worshipped with everything I had and the "life of peace and love" left me with scars that still haunt me. I don't wish to serve your god. I don't want his peace or his love or his eternity in heaven. I just want the chance to make the best of and enjoy and live my life and then die a normal death where that's the end. If there was a god, he would give that option. There's just no way to justify a god who wouldn't give that option.