(March 10, 2015 at 10:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 10:05 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Your starting point is so bizarrely and hopelessly flawed that even the discussion about it is useless. Anything anyone here says will just drift past you without a mote of consideration from you. You just can't be wrong.

So you've got nothing, understood.

By the way, it seems you never have anything to add to the discussion just useless remarks.

You've been a member less than 9 months with a month and a half spent on these forums, you really need a hobby....

Case and point. Speaking of nothing to add..

(March 10, 2015 at 10:16 am)Cinjin Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 10:04 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you saying Denmark's government is secular? that all I want to know?

You are a special kind of deceiver aren't you. A government is not one thing or the other. Not every politician in America believes in your phony god. Likewise, not every politician in Denmark is an atheist. Nowhere does it say in the US constitution that our government is Christian, and yet we often usher Jehovah into our political, educational and social arenas touting god and government all the way. To universally say that any government is or is not religious is erroneous and exceptionally dishonest on your part. Does religion exist in Denmark? Of course it does - and that means it exists in some small part in their government as well. That doesn't mean that Denmark is not predominately atheistic across the board - BECAUSE IT IS!

You are twisting and contorting information to make an argument you do not have. You're a real piece of work. The word liar comes to mind.

But yet 78% of Danes are members of the church.
http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/RINV...enmark.htm

Quote:• According to the constitution (§ 54), the Lutheran-evangelic Church is the Danish People’s Church (“Folkekirke”), and is, as such, supported by the State, which means that the Lutheran-evangelic religion and its institutions and churches are given a favored place among religions in Danish society. All tax-paying citizens, regardless of their personal religious beliefs, thus contribute to the priests and bishops of the “Folkekirke.”

Now show me in the US constitution where any church or religion is favored...

(March 10, 2015 at 10:22 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Now show me where in the US constitution where any church or religion is favored...

Good, you're learning. I'll use this quote the next time one of you theists on here claims that the US was founded on Christianity or that Christianity is the basis of the constitution.

Cool reflective balloon, bro (skip to about 2:40)

(March 10, 2015 at 10:22 am)Huggy74 Wrote: But yet 78% of Danes are members of the church.

...and you're a member of an atheist forum.

Two more pages and we're in China.

Holy fucking shit Huggy! Did I say anyone did ask that question? Why are you telling me what my point was? I already explained what the point was as well.

Option 4. Time is an illusion and cause and effect is meaningless.
Option 5. This universe was created by the breaking off of a tiny bit of another universe.
Option 6. Our universe was created as a side-effect of a chemical reaction in another universe.
Option 7. An unintelligent being created the universe, such as the Rock God, Smikkul who can do amazing things but has no intelligence or awareness.

Also, say there is some sort of creator. What difference does it make? Why should I care?

(March 10, 2015 at 11:32 am)robvalue Wrote: Holy fucking shit Huggy! Did I say anyone did ask that question? Why are you telling me what my point was? I already explained what the point was as well.

Option 4. Time is an illusion and cause and effect is meaningless.
Option 5. This universe was created by the breaking off of a tiny bit of another universe.
Option 6. Our universe was created as a side-effect of a chemical reaction in another universe.
Option 7. An unintelligent being created the universe, such as the Rock God, Smikkul who can do amazing things but has no intelligence or awareness.

Option 8: The universe, as we know it, is merely a computer simulation
Option 9: The universe is actually the vivid mental delusion of a single individual
Option 10: The universe is actually the dream of some other civilization (I call this the Final Fantasy X option)

(March 10, 2015 at 10:04 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you saying Denmark's government is secular? that all I want to know?

Are you saying that government is the only possible expression of a country's outlook?

(March 10, 2015 at 11:58 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 10:04 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you saying Denmark's government is secular? that all I want to know?

Are you saying that government is the only possible expression of a country's outlook?

I think he's saying that his god created another enigma so that when a heretic looks at the country of Denmark he sees the open secular minded television and internet leanings of the Danes, but when a True Christian ™ looks at the country, he sees nothing but piety and Jeebus Worship.

I suppose god likes to make such enigmas. The bible reads SOOOO much differently from a non-christian's point of view to a True Believer's ™.

(March 10, 2015 at 11:32 am)robvalue Wrote: Holy fucking shit Huggy! Did I say anyone did ask that question? Why are you telling me what my point was? I already explained what the point was as well.

Option 4. Time is an illusion and cause and effect is meaningless.
Option 5. This universe was created by the breaking off of a tiny bit of another universe.
Option 6. Our universe was created as a side-effect of a chemical reaction in another universe.
Option 7. An unintelligent being created the universe, such as the Rock God, Smikkul who can do amazing things but has no intelligence or awareness.

Also, say there is some sort of creator. What difference does it make? Why should I care?

Didn't understand the question?
I clearly said pick the scenario that's least silly

(March 2, 2015 at 12:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: As far as my proposal being "silliness", I going to list three scenarios, Pick the one that is least silly according to what you know to be possible/impossible.

1. The universe created itself.
2. The universe was created by an intelligent being.
3. The universe has always existed.


If you have a fourth scenario, then by all means, let me hear it.

Also, if you think I've asked any loaded question, be specific and quote what I said.

I'm going to assume that by submitting those three scenarios, you consider them just as likely.