She said what everyone was thinking and yes she is right. The hypocrisy of the duggar family was just...
really angering when they say trans and homosexual people are bad and shouldn't be forgiving ye then preach 
forgiveness when they fuck up and stuff from their past comes to the light. 

you can only get this hypocrisy and double standard from Christianity and other Abrahamic beliefs. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04...15308.html

What hypocrisy?

Homosexuality is a sin, and they will be the first to say what their son did was also a sin. Both need forgiveness.

(June 5, 2015 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: What hypocrisy?

Homosexuality is a sin, and they will be the first to say what their son did was also a sin. Both need forgiveness.

If that is what you believe then keep it to yourself stop being vocal about it. People now are becoming less and less tolerant of religion being vocal about their beliefs.
Heck you guys pretty lost the 90's generation and on wards. Pretty much you guys are the cause of your own decline because of the stuff like the duggar family and pretty much
every vocal theist is. 

(June 5, 2015 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: What hypocrisy?

Homosexuality is a sin, and they will be the first to say what their son did was also a sin. Both need forgiveness.

Simply vile. Conversation isn't required to demonstrate the moral bankruptcy of Christianity when all I have to do is point at this.

Drich, question. I understand your view of homosexuality as a sin that needs to be forgiven. My question is: is there any sin or series of sins committed over one's life that cannot be forgiven, thus the former sinner ends up in heaven?

(June 5, 2015 at 9:52 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Drich, question.  I understand your view of homosexuality as a sin that needs to be forgiven.  My question is: is there any sin or series of sins committed over one's life that cannot be forgiven, thus the former sinner ends up in heaven?

Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit is the only sin we can not be forgiven of.

All other sins can fall under the rules of atonement.

That is why it is important to identify Homosexuality as a sin, so the sinner can seek atonement rather than try and justify one's sin.

(June 5, 2015 at 10:01 am)Drich Wrote:

(June 5, 2015 at 9:52 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Drich, question.  I understand your view of homosexuality as a sin that needs to be forgiven.  My question is: is there any sin or series of sins committed over one's life that cannot be forgiven, thus the former sinner ends up in heaven?

Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit is the only sin we can not be forgiven of.

All other sins can fall under the rules of atonement.

That is why it is important to identify Homosexuality as a sin, so the sinner can seek atonement rather than try and justify one's sin.

I understand. Can you give a very summarized account of how one would seek atonement?

(June 5, 2015 at 9:33 am)dyresand Wrote:

(June 5, 2015 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: What hypocrisy?

Homosexuality is a sin, and they will be the first to say what their son did was also a sin. Both need forgiveness.

If that is what you believe then keep it to yourself stop being vocal about it. People now are becoming less and less tolerant of religion being vocal about their beliefs.
Heck you guys pretty lost the 90's generation and on wards. Pretty much you guys are the cause of your own decline because of the stuff like the duggar family and pretty much
every vocal theist is. 

You seem to support whoopee in her pointing out the duggars hypocrisy. I asked a question when I said I did not see any hypocrisy. This is your thread. can you demonstrate or at least identify said hypocrisy?

(June 5, 2015 at 10:01 am)Drich Wrote:

(June 5, 2015 at 9:52 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Drich, question.  I understand your view of homosexuality as a sin that needs to be forgiven.  My question is: is there any sin or series of sins committed over one's life that cannot be forgiven, thus the former sinner ends up in heaven?

Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit is the only sin we can not be forgiven of.

All other sins can fall under the rules of atonement.

That is why it is important to identify Homosexuality as a sin, so the sinner can seek atonement rather than try and justify one's sin.

Oops

http://atheistforums.org/thread-30063.ht...emy+thread

Even if you believe homosexuality is a sin it's still hypocritical of them to condemn gay people while expecting people to forgive them when one of their tribe does something wrong. They should either live and let live with regards to LGBT people or accept the condemnation of others for their (actual) sins