Whoopi speaks out against the duggar family

[Longhorn]

Let's try it then. 

1. The holy spirit is a rapist.
2. The holy spirit doesn't exist. 
3. If the holy spirit exists I invite it to immediately suck my balls.
4. The holy spirit is as far from holy as anything can get.
5. If I feel the holy spirit I'm immediately going to call Dan Aykroyd and gang.

Am I now doomed to hell forever?

The holy spirit is a poopyhead

Front row, seat between Stalin and John Wayne Gacy please

[Rev. Rye]

Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit is the only sin we can not be forgiven of.

All other sins can fall under the rules of atonement.

That is why it is important to identify Homosexuality as a sin, so the sinner can seek atonement rather than try and justify one's sin.

Let's try it then. 

1. The holy spirit is a rapist.
2. The holy spirit doesn't exist. 
3. If the holy spirit exists I invite it to immediately suck my balls.
4. The holy spirit is as far from holy as anything can get.
5. If I feel the holy spirit I'm immediately going to call Dan Aykroyd and gang.

Am I now doomed to hell forever?

My Dick is the Holy Spirit!

or

The Holy Spirit is MY DICK!

Are either of the two constructions more or less conducive to eternal damnation?

[Drich]

What hypocrisy?

Homosexuality is a sin, and they will be the first to say what their son did was also a sin. Both need forgiveness.

The hypocrisy is them putting on a show of being morally upright when they were not, and in expecting forgiveness when they have been unforgiving of others.

This has been more or less stated in post 17.

Do you have examples of the hypocrisy or is it your assumption that they would behave this way because they are Christian (being unforgiving/'morally up right') is it your belief that being 'morally up right?' Means one is ammune to sin? So when a 'morally up right' person/family member sins what recourse should be taken that wasn't taken by the duggars?

[dyresand]

The hypocrisy is them putting on a show of being morally upright when they were not, and in expecting forgiveness when they have been unforgiving of others.

This has been more or less stated in post 17.

Do you have examples of the hypocrisy or is it your assumption that they would behave this way because they are Christian (being unforgiving/'morally up right') is it your belief that being 'morally up right?' Means one is ammune to sin? So when a 'morally up right' person/family member sins what recourse should be taken that wasn't taken by the duggars?

The Duggar family or specifically the father of the Duggar family you twat. 

[Regina]

Whoopi is right, they're hypocrites.

There's no victim with consensual homosexuality between adults. There is a victim with paedophilia and yet they expect no backlash.

And I don't know how many times I have to say this, just because your ancient spellbook says one thing is a sin it doesn't mean you have to foist that opinion onto everyone else. I'm not a part of your club, I couldn't give a shit if homosexuality is a sin to you. Sorry for caring more about those kids who really have been violated than I care about your religious ego.

on the church as a whole, we're not staying silent on paedophilia in the Christian church just to protect the reputation of said church. Fuck your reputation.

[SteelCurtain]

Do you have examples of the hypocrisy or is it your assumption that they would behave this way because they are Christian (being unforgiving/'morally up right') is it your belief that being 'morally up right?' Means one is ammune to sin? So when a 'morally up right' person/family member sins what recourse should be taken that wasn't taken by the duggars?

Did you read the thread, Drippy? It is literally filled with examples of their hypocrisy, backed up by police reports.

Are you that disingenuous that you picked the one post that asserted what we all proved with sources? Why is every theist that signs up here a liar?

[dyresand]

Do you have examples of the hypocrisy or is it your assumption that they would behave this way because they are Christian (being unforgiving/'morally up right') is it your belief that being 'morally up right?' Means one is ammune to sin? So when a 'morally up right' person/family member sins what recourse should be taken that wasn't taken by the duggars?

 Why is every theist that signs up here a liar?

They protect their own in this case it's sick and wrong to protect them. 

[Nope]

The hypocrisy is them putting on a show of being morally upright when they were not, and in expecting forgiveness when they have been unforgiving of others.

This has been more or less stated in post 17.

Do you have examples of the hypocrisy or is it your assumption that they would behave this way because they are Christian (being unforgiving/'morally up right') is it your belief that being 'morally up right?' Means one is ammune to sin? So when a 'morally up right' person/family member sins what recourse should be taken that wasn't taken by the duggars?

I am curious. Why do you consider the Duggars to be Christian and not Mormons? The Duggars follow the teachings of a man named Bill Gothard.

I think that the writer of this blog is a Christian so you shouldn't be uncomfortable reading the article

http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2012/12/p...othardism/

He outlines a vertical chain of authority (God, father/husband directly under God, wife below, children lower still) and explains the consequences of getting out from under the umbrella of (patriarchal) authority. (Women have no authority, except what their husband delegates to them over the children.) He gives a long litany of stories of those who went against the wishes of their husbands/fathers and suffered terribly, contrasted with tales of those who submitted, against culture and common sense, and were rewarded beyond their dreams. Those who rebel and eventually return are gravely compared to cracked diamonds–only worth a fraction of the value they could have had if they had been submissive all along.

In a sense, all of his teachings come back to the idea that if you align yourself underneath the umbrella, perfectly submissive to all of Gothard’s principles, then you will be safe. If you dare to go out from under the umbrella by not conforming perfectly with a joyful countenance and light in your eyes, then any number of hailstorms will pound you to a bloody pulp.

This doesn't sound like the type of Christianity that you claim to believe. Bill Gothard, by the way, has also been accused of harassing women. Why aren't you as tough on the Duggars as you are on Mormons?

[Drich]

Do you have examples of the hypocrisy or is it your assumption that they would behave this way because they are Christian (being unforgiving/'morally up right') is it your belief that being 'morally up right?' Means one is ammune to sin? So when a 'morally up right' person/family member sins what recourse should be taken that wasn't taken by the duggars?

Did you read the thread, Drippy? It is literally filled with examples of their hypocrisy, backed up by police reports.

Are you that disingenuous that you picked the one post that asserted what we all proved with sources? Why is every theist that signs up here a liar?

I did not see any source material. Just links to commentary on what was supposedly done/not done. That is why I've asked for examples.

You guys are like a mindless mob sometimes. You demand all sort of evidence for God, but when something like real justice is being discussed anything is considered a 'source/evidence.'

[Pyrrho]

The hypocrisy is them putting on a show of being morally upright when they were not, and in expecting forgiveness when they have been unforgiving of others.

This has been more or less stated in post 17.

Do you have examples of the hypocrisy or is it your assumption that they would behave this way because they are Christian (being unforgiving/'morally up right') is it your belief that being 'morally up right?' Means one is ammune to sin? So when a 'morally up right' person/family member sins what recourse should be taken that wasn't taken by the duggars?

Do you seriously need a link to something to tell you that they claimed to be morally upright?  Do you not understand the point of their show, how they were supposedly an example of how people should live their lives?  You can read about the show here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19_Kids_and_Counting

Or are you thinking that child molestation is not wrong?  As I stated, "The hypocrisy is them putting on a show of being morally upright when they were not," which is obviously true.  

I should probably just stop here, as that is enough.


As for the forgiveness part, Josh Duggar was part of a hate group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/in...ch-council

Do you seem him wanting to be held accountable for his actual crimes of molesting little girls?  He wants to be forgiven, but he is not forgiving of others.  The others being adults who engage in consentual sex acts with adults, unlike his sexual acts with small children who did not consent in any sense of the term.  He wants their actions to be criminal, and for them to be punished, but he does not want his actions to be punished.  Do you not see how it is hypocritical to want to have one's own sexual misconduct forgiven, but to have others' sexual misconduct punished?  (And even that is giving him great concessions, as it is not universally accepted that homosexual actions between consenting adults is sexual misconduct, but even granting the Duggars' position on that point, they are hypocrites in how they want their misdeeds to go unpunished.)


Here is another example of hypocrisy all at once (starting at 1:50):

https://youtu.be/go_-gxksOQg?t=110

Where they endorse Rick Santorum for the idea of only confirming pro-life justices and judges, but want judges to not legislate from the bench!  It is incredible that they would immediately contradict themselves in a political ad, but intelligence is not the strong point of their target audience.

This illustrates their hypocrisy quite well, in that they imagine that ignoring the law in their favor is okay, but otherwise it is "legislating from the bench."