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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 5:20 am
(December 27, 2015 at 1:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
Quote:First of all, you're quoting JEWISH scripture (from a bastardized version of the bible no less), and since when did one convert to being a Jew? Either you're born one or you aren't. If you aren't a Jew why do you believe in the ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale?
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 5:30 am
(December 27, 2015 at 2:58 am)dyresand Wrote: (December 27, 2015 at 2:45 am)Heat Wrote: Phil Robertson is fucking insane is the answer.
He gave a speech at an annual prayer breakfast(whatever that is), which made everyone just looked at him and just kind of stared embarrassed/confused, here's what he said;
"Two guys break into an atheist's home," Robertson began. "He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot 'em and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And they can look at him and say, 'Isn't it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn't it great that there's nothing wrong with this? There's no right or wrong, now is it dude?'
"Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, 'Wouldn't it be something if this was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We're sick in the head, have a nice day.'
"If it happened to them, they probably would say, 'Something about this just ain't right.'"
So I don't think you should judge his opinion on atheists as being representative of everyone's, given what he's previously said on the subject.
Even though that guy is bat shit crazy when he said that he brought up a valid point because
he did say at the end, "If it happened to them, they probably would say, 'Something about this just ain't right.'".
That only proves a point that Atheists know right from wrong without a god or bible etc telling them what is right or
wrong. So the fact being in the end why people were confused he pretty much said to everyone you don't need god
to tell you what's right or wrong.
In the Bible and the Koran what's right and wrong, good and evil, depends upon the circumstances. Nothing is ever always right or always wrong. If the God character tells you to do it then it's good if it involves killing everyone in a country. It would be wrong for you not to do it. It's wrong to gather sticks on the sabbath to build a fire to keep you warm because the God character says not to do it. And if you do it anyway the religious fanatics will be good people for knocking your brains out.
According to the fairy tales the worse thing a person can do is to use his own judgment. It's completely wrong in every situation to think for yourself. That's what the rules are for. When Saul showed mercy the God character got really pissed off and regretted that he had made Saul king.
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 5:37 am
(December 27, 2015 at 1:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: First of all, you're quoting JEWISH scripture (from a bastardized version of the bible no less), and since when did one convert to being a Jew? Either you're born one or you aren't.
You can convert to Judaism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 7:03 am
(December 27, 2015 at 1:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: and since when did one convert to being a Jew? Either you're born one or you aren't.
Please tell me, you're joking. You can't be that dense and ignorant, or can you?
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 7:22 am
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(December 27, 2015 at 1:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (December 26, 2015 at 8:34 pm)IanHulett Wrote: I've been saying islam is pathetically evil... because it says to convert or kill the nonbelievers... but little did I know... the holy bible has the same thing...
Proverbs 8:36 "But if you wrong me, you damage your very soul; when you reject me, you’re flirting with death.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=MSG
According to Phil Robertson... that means convert or kill the nonbelievers...
Observe: https://youtu.be/NuJF4KJVftQ?t=2m36s
Fastforward to 2m 36s
Either phil robertson is mighty fucking insane... or his bible REALLY says convert or kill the nonbelievers, just like islam(Or both)... if that's true... boy, am I mighty fucking glad I'm an atheist...
I will admit, I never read the whole bible... it's too boring to get past the first couple of pages in genesis... so I am not familiar with ALL the lies and fear mongering that's in it.... I'm aware of some of it... but not all... I'm certainly aware of enough to decide Christianity is definitely not a religion I want any part in...
First of all, you're quoting JEWISH scripture (from a bastardized version of the bible no less), and since when did one convert to being a Jew? Either you're born one or you aren't.
I have another question... why do you guys always try to distance yourself from the old testament in the bible? Is it because you know it's full of evil and attrocities... and just as bad as the Koran, so you try to make excuses to avoid having to answer for the stuff in there?
I'm not fooled... because people who say "that's OT stuff... it doesn't apply anymore..." also quote things like the 10 commandments and the story of moses which comes from the old testament...
If pinkie pie isn't real, then how do you explain the existence of ponies, huh? If ponies are real, then that's proof that Pinkie Pie is real. Checkmate, christians!
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 7:37 am
The OT clearly shows that killing people is fine as long as you think God is commanding you to do so. He's perfectly cool with taking out people just because they have different beliefs.
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 11:53 am
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(December 27, 2015 at 2:17 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:and since when did one convert to being a Jew? Either you're born one or you aren't.
King Alexander Jannaeus forcibly converted Galilee in 101 BC.
Such is what happens when you waste your life reading the fucking bible instead of learning history.
(December 27, 2015 at 7:03 am)abaris Wrote: (December 27, 2015 at 1:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: and since when did one convert to being a Jew? Either you're born one or you aren't.
Please tell me, you're joking. You can't be that dense and ignorant, or can you?
This is for both of you clueless muppets......
The word "Jew" in the bible refers to a nation, more specifically, to the descendants of the tribe of Judah.
http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm
Quote:In the 6th century B.C.E., the kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria and the ten tribes were exiled from the land (II Kings 17), leaving only the tribes in the kingdom of Judah remaining to carry on Abraham's heritage. These people of the kingdom of Judah were generally known to themselves and to other nations as Yehudim (Jews), and that name continues to be used today.
In case you missed it, God made a covenant with Abraham, that his seed would become a great nation, so unless you can trace your lineage back to Abraham, you are not a Jew.
Revelation 2:9
Quote:I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 11:59 am
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(December 27, 2015 at 11:53 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (December 27, 2015 at 2:17 am)Minimalist Wrote: King Alexander Jannaeus forcibly converted Galilee in 101 BC.
Such is what happens when you waste your life reading the fucking bible instead of learning history.
(December 27, 2015 at 7:03 am)abaris Wrote: Please tell me, you're joking. You can't be that dense and ignorant, or can you?
This is for both of you clueless muppets......
The word "Jew" in the bible refers to a nation, more specifically, to the descendants of the tribe of Judah.
http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm
Quote:In the 6th century B.C.E., the kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria and the ten tribes were exiled from the land (II Kings 17), leaving only the tribes in the kingdom of Judah remaining to carry on Abraham's heritage. These people of the kingdom of Judah were generally known to themselves and to other nations as Yehudim (Jews), and that name continues to be used today.
In case you missed it, God made a covenant with Abraham, that his seed would become a great nation, so unless you can trace your lineage back to Abraham, you are not a Jew.
You're a moron if you follow the supposed teachings of christ i mean come on he did say he didn't come change shit yet
you guys kinda changed shit and you know made the NT which funny enough has parts of the OT in it. Yet you guys are like,
oh jesus didn't say that he came to change things yet the bible says otherwise. And its funny how christians are quick to throw
the OT under the buss when the OT is the basis the absolute basis for your own god damn religion. Oh you know what the funny
part is you guys mention the 10 commandments and thou shalt not kill. Get ready for this moses destroyed the 10 commandments
again that part being ignored because once again people cherry pick what they like. If any of this were true you are following a old law
that doesn't even matter anymore because moses broke the tablets.
in reality christianity and catholicism is judaism 1.5: savior edition.
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 12:25 pm
(December 27, 2015 at 7:22 am)IanHulett Wrote: (December 27, 2015 at 1:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: First of all, you're quoting JEWISH scripture (from a bastardized version of the bible no less), and since when did one convert to being a Jew? Either you're born one or you aren't.
I have another question... why do you guys always try to distance yourself from the old testament in the bible? Is it because you know it's full of evil and attrocities... and just as bad as the Koran, so you try to make excuses to avoid having to answer for the stuff in there?
I'm not fooled... because people who say "that's OT stuff... it doesn't apply anymore..." also quote things like the 10 commandments and the story of moses which comes from the old testament...
Let me ask you something. What law did Abraham abide by? NONE! Because the Law didn't exist until Moses.
If God had intended for man to live under the law, it would have been established from the beginning. The Jews rejected Grace and as an example God gave them the law to show that NO ONE is good enough to earn their way into heaven based on works.
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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 12:47 pm
(December 27, 2015 at 12:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (December 27, 2015 at 7:22 am)IanHulett Wrote: I have another question... why do you guys always try to distance yourself from the old testament in the bible? Is it because you know it's full of evil and attrocities... and just as bad as the Koran, so you try to make excuses to avoid having to answer for the stuff in there?
I'm not fooled... because people who say "that's OT stuff... it doesn't apply anymore..." also quote things like the 10 commandments and the story of moses which comes from the old testament...
Let me ask you something. What law did Abraham abide by? NONE! Because the Law didn't exist until Moses.
If God had intended for man to live under the law, it would have been established from the beginning. The Jews rejected Grace and as an example God gave them the law to show that NO ONE is good enough to earn their way into heaven based on works.
Well read your damn bible is all i have to say jebuss wanted christians to be jews and accept that he was the son of god it's that simple.
So why distance your self from judiasm if you are christian anyways from what i read jesus wasn't a christian he was a jew with super powers
who wanted his followers to be jews not christians. He even states i ain't changing shit keep following this shit simple enough.
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