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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 5:20 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 5:06 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 4:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's a forum under "religion". There are so many sections without religion. If you don't want to hear about religion, don't go the section!
Easter is the official celebration of Christians, with Jesus peace be upon him becoming a zombie and get resurrected from his grave after the Romans' crucifixion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter
How do you wish a "happy celebration for the believers of the zombie theory", while claiming at the same time that you're a theist; following Islam?
It's quite hypocritical. And contradictory beyond belief.
At least have respect to the minds of the readers, if you don't respect yourself.
You tell feminist readers that God is a woman.
You tell Christian reads that Jesus was a zombie.
And in reality, you're just a desperate Shiite who tricks supporters in internet forums via preaching a broken record; so repetitive it makes me feel funny, you post walls of text full of crap when to mislead readers.
AF is a good forum, in it, people discuss their faiths; but you preach. Learn the difference between preach, discuss and belief. We know you have no appreciation to humanity loving God's chosen ones. You go crazy over my love for Ali and the Imams from the Prophet's daughter's offspring.
The people of the book are still people of the book not because their book still resembles what a book from God looks like, it's because the truth of God's Name and light is still found therein and they believe in the guiding nature of God.
The truth of his name trickled down because the dark forces couldn't do away with the light of the Prophets and their morals in the people, and hence the people of the book are honored by this title.
Most of the holy books are about the wisdom of God vesting his authority in his chosen ones, and Christ means his anointed one and refers to the true kings appointed by God.
But we know how allergic you are to the idea of God anointing Kings and choosing leaders and guiding by them.... You solely hate me for that reason.
May God bless the last successor of Moses and Aeron, and may hasten his reappearance alongside the last successor of Mohammad and Ali.
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 5:26 pm
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 5:27 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 5:26 pm)emjay Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 5:13 pm)I\ll ticKnight Wrote: Peace to you as well.
May God heal all our hearts!
I'll take the former but not the latter... unless you're willing to accept blessings from
I believe even spaghetti has blessings and prays for us with blessings.... even pebbles. But I would never say spaghetti can be in the highest realm which is nothing but the divine beauty and self.
But yes, you can ask the spaghetti monsters to bless me lol.
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 6:29 pm
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(April 14, 2017 at 5:15 pm)LastPoet Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 5:06 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Easter is the official celebration of Christians, with Jesus peace be upon him becoming a zombie and get resurrected from his grave after the Romans' crucifixion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter
How do you wish a "happy celebration for the believers of the zombie theory", while claiming at the same time that you're a theist; following Islam?
It's quite hypocritical. And contradictory beyond belief.
At least have respect to the minds of the readers, if you don't respect yourself.
You tell feminist readers that God is a woman.
You tell Christian reads that Jesus was a zombie.
And in reality, you're just a desperate Shiite who tricks supporters in internet forums via preaching a broken record; so repetitive it makes me feel funny, you post walls of text full of crap when to mislead readers.
AF is a good forum, in it, people discuss their faiths; but you preach. Learn the difference between preach, discuss and belief.
You will just go to hell like me for not believing like he does. Well... Do you know any card games? While tormenting in hell, we will have to busy ourselves. How about start a band? Crispy Treat doesn't sound bad.
A Texas Holdem round seems legit. We'll have a big Kabab feast after.
No eating during the game!
This is how wars and years of grudges happen. Two parties spend centuries of building up hate; usually it's a string of poison stretched through family bloodlines; religious schools spurt the poison over youth, and the youth just pick it up; any resistance is crushed for "opposing the pope/ the Shekih/ the AyatoAllah". Eventually killing begins; and people get filled with revenge; hate for the other party, in the middle of all that blood reason just vanish.
Mysticknight
Quote:We know you have no appreciation to humanity loving God's chosen ones. You go crazy over my love for Ali and the Imams from the Prophet's daughter's offspring.
Don't be silly MK; I go crazy on everybody!
But you can love dead people. I too love dead people. But living beings have more priority to me; that's all.
Quote:The people of the book are still people of the book not because their book still resembles what a book from God looks like, it's because the truth of God's Name and light is still found therein and they believe in the guiding nature of God.
Whoever said God is three, is a non-believer by the Quran mentioning it explicitly?
Sura 5, Page 120, The Quran:
(73) Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.
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Catholics believe in the trinity?
Why do you lie and tell them "you're people of the book...my brothers and sisters..."?
More verses against Christianity:
Sura 5, Page 110, The Quran:
(17) Surely, in disbelief are they who say that Allah is the messiah, son of Maryam (Mary) . Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "Who then has the least power against Allah, if He were to destroy the messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), his mother, and all those who are on the earth together?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them. He creates what He wills. And Allah is Able to do all things.
Why do you keep telling Christians that they are believers, while your own holy book says that they are in desbelief?
The world changed; MK.
The people of the book are almost non-existent. Catholic Crusades sent them to their graves long ago. Most Christians see Jesus as God, or the Son of God that completes God being a piece of him. Some pretty harsh verses in the Quran were directed against this kind of faith.
Quote:The truth of his name trickled down because the dark forces couldn't do away with the light of the Prophets and their morals in the people, and hence the people of the book are honored by this title.
No. not with me; you never say this to me. I grew up in religious schools that practiced this "dark forces" crap when they ran out of words.
I ignored them.
Quote:Most of the holy books are about the wisdom of God vesting his authority in his chosen ones, and Christ means his anointed one and refers to the true kings appointed by God.
No, they are (and I leave the definition to God himself):
Sura 2, Page 2. The Quran:
This is the book (the Qur'an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious believers of Islamic Monotheism who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden)
Why is guidance needed to be refreshed?
Humans ruin the books -like the Bible- with nonsense spitted by scholars. Muslims have the Hadith, Christians have the Bible, Jews have weirder things.
Quote:But we know how allergic you are to the idea of God anointing Kings and choosing leaders and guiding by them.... You solely hate me for that reason.
No; I hate your annoying preaching temper.
Quit the drama queen act.
Quote:May God bless the last successor of Moses and Aeron, and may hasten his reappearance alongside the last successor of Mohammad and Ali.
Links. People don't understand encrypted missionary codes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi
So, Mystic believes that the fictional character in the link would come, and dominate the whole world.
Good luck !
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 6:35 pm
Ummm, so anyway....
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 6:55 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 6:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ummm, so anyway....
Spend happy days; CL. But not gonna tell you happy Easter; because I don't believe in it.
But happy days ^_^ .
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 6:56 pm
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(April 14, 2017 at 5:00 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: ...
Yes if the truth and proof of God have been made to a particular soul, then disbelieving in God when God the light and manifest in his hiddenness and hidden in his apparentness, is justification for hell.
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I personally see that as perhaps the biggest problem with religion... that it should rest on what you believe, rather than how you act given that you believe. What possible motivation could there be for a god to test you on what you believe, when belief itself is largely not a matter of choice and variable... for instance in hypnosis a person can believe thing very easily because of heightened ssuggestibility, rather than how you act given that you believe? I have no problem with the notion that a god would reward those obedient to it and punish those who rebelled against it, given that they believed. But to reward for belief itself, and punish for lack of belief itself, misses the mark completely and is a pointless test. Say God was manifest to everyone... so belief or lack of was not an issue... then such a test would be like that god saying to everyone 'I'll tell you what, you can come to heaven if you can convince yourself to believe that the FSM is real, otherwise you'll go to hell'... a pointless test that misses the mark completely.
All he'd need to do was prove his existence to everyone, presenting whatever type of evidence that would convince that person... or better yet, be undeniable innate knowledge... like a sixth sense. Being a god with infinite power, it should be no harder for him to produce one type of evidence than another... even if meant parting a sea for everyone From that position the test of obedience makes perfect sense and anyone who chooses to rebel... on their head be it. But to measure rebellion on belief itself is for me one of the strongest arguments against religion that either suggests there is no god or at most that if he exists he's too dumb to be called an intelligent designer.
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 7:01 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 6:56 pm)emjay Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 5:00 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: ...
Yes if the truth and proof of God have been made to a particular soul, then disbelieving in God when God the light and manifest in his hiddenness and hidden in his apparentness, is justification for hell.
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I personally see that as perhaps the biggest problem with religion... that it should rest on what you believe, rather than how you act given that you believe. What possible motivation could there be for a god to test you on what you believe, when belief itself is largely not a matter of choice and variable... for instance in hypnosis a person can believe thing very easily because of heightened ssuggestibility, rather than how you act given that you believe? I have no problem with the notion that a god would reward those obedient to it and punish those who rebelled against it, given that they believed. But to reward for belief itself, and punish for lack of belief itself, misses the mark completely and is a pointless test. Say God was manifest to everyone... so belief or lack of was not an issue... then such a test would be like that god saying to everyone 'I'll tell you what, you can come to heaven if you can convince yourself to believe that the FSM is real, otherwise you'll go to hell'... a pointless test that misses the mark completely.
All he'd need to do was prove his existence to everyone, presenting whatever type of evidence that would convince that person... or better yet, be undeniable innate knowledge... like a sixth sense. Being a god with infinite power, it should be no harder for him to produce one type of evidence than another... even if meant parting a sea for everyone From that position the test of obedience makes perfect sense and anyone who chooses to rebel... on their head be it. But to measure rebellion on belief itself is for me one of the strongest arguments against religion that either suggests there is no god or at most that if he exists he's too dumb to be called an intelligent designer.
I'd say it suggests that the religion is man made and that it's fully aware of its inability to ever present any evidence for the god it is proposing.
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 7:10 pm
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(April 14, 2017 at 6:55 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 6:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ummm, so anyway....
Spend happy days; CL. But not gonna tell you happy Easter; because I don't believe in it.
But happy days ^_^ .
No one believes in it anymore, not even the christians. It's just a cultural artifact at this point.
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RE: Happy Easter!
April 14, 2017 at 7:27 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 7:10 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 6:55 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Spend happy days; CL. But not gonna tell you happy Easter; because I don't believe in it.
But happy days ^_^ .
No one believes in it anymore, not even the christians. It's just a cultural artifact at this point.
I always hear about "Easter eggs".
We have many festivals around the Middle East:
-The Birth of the Prophet or "El Mooled"; Egyptians distribute candy in it.
-The breakfast festival or "Eid Al Fitr"; mostly all Muslims celebrate it; it comes after Ramadan.
-The sacrifice festival or "Eid Al Adha"; mostly all Muslims who have cash butcher a sheep to celebrate it.
So I always thought Easters are about colored eggs and trolling jokes. The first time I search about its origins was today.
Thanks Giving is all about Americans and Turkey, right? Turkey the animal; not the country.
Christianity is witnessing a change in my perspective, many beliefs are just being dumped.
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