Two dead after hate crime in Portland

[John V]

Here's his FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.christia...CH&fref=nf

The "If" makes that look like it was pulled out of context and not actually supportive of Trump, so I checked the page.

The post previous to this one was:

Hi. I'm Donald Trump and I want all of the attractive female citizens of the USA to know that if you get too drunk to stand, because I am president of the Union; you can sit on my face. I'm here for you!!! #DonaldJDrumpfPOTUS

Which is clearly a shot at Trump. One of the commenters even said, "And even with a post like this, liberals are still tripping over each other to call you a Trump supporter lmao"

The third post following it:

Death to Hillary Rodham Clinton and all her supporters!!! To be carried out by Bernie Supporters who didn't turn traitor and vote Hillary....

And two days later this one, which advocates overthrow of Trump's government and installation of Sanders as president:

Sanders/Stein 2017!!! Let's stop these pipelines and reign in the Prison/Military Industrial Complexes!!!We the People have the right(As enshrined in our Constitution)to change any government by any means necessary!!! If Not Today Then Tomorrow!!!

So...why did you pull the one post out and ignore the others? 

[pocaracas]

It's funny how one sentence has been pulled to its limits and twisted around...

Trump's hate is even infiltrating the liberal bastion of Portland.

I think what CM means here is that Trump's hate for the minorities (in this case, Muslims... but it could apply to any, be it gays, Mexicans, Blacks, the poor, etc) is providing these people with courage to do these despicable acts... perhaps they think they'll get off unscathed.

For everyone, the example comes from above.... it starts with the parents and eventually it comes to the law makers, the politicians.
"If the person that makes the law of the land where I live shows that he doesn't like this group of people, why should I be blamed for doing the same?"

[John V]

It's funny how one sentence has been pulled to its limits and twisted around...

Trump's hate is even infiltrating the liberal bastion of Portland.

I think what CM means here is that Trump's hate for the minorities (in this case, Muslims... but it could apply to any, be it gays, Mexicans, Blacks, the poor, etc) is providing these people with courage to do these despicable acts... perhaps they think they'll get off unscathed.

For everyone, the example comes from above.... it starts with the parents and eventually it comes to the law makers, the politicians.
"If the person that makes the law of the land where I live shows that he doesn't like this group of people, why should I be blamed for doing the same?"

I agree that's probably CM's desired narrative, but this guy was convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery a long time ago. He was dangerous well before Trump. The facts don't fit the narrative.

[pocaracas]

It's funny how one sentence has been pulled to its limits and twisted around...


I think what CM means here is that Trump's hate for the minorities (in this case, Muslims... but it could apply to any, be it gays, Mexicans, Blacks, the poor, etc) is providing these people with courage to do these despicable acts... perhaps they think they'll get off unscathed.

For everyone, the example comes from above.... it starts with the parents and eventually it comes to the law makers, the politicians.
"If the person that makes the law of the land where I live shows that he doesn't like this group of people, why should I be blamed for doing the same?"

I agree that's probably CM's desired narrative, but this guy was convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery a long time ago. He was dangerous well before Trump. The facts don't fit the narrative.

Yes, but in this case, he acted on the hate towards a minority.
The stabbing, I guess, stemmed from that previously recognized propensity for crime.

The narrative becomes that these people with such a propensity are (perhaps now more so than before, but I don't have the stats to back that up) acting against the minorities that the President has shown to be against.

[Silver]

I agree that's probably CM's desired narrative, but this guy was convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery a long time ago. He was dangerous well before Trump. The facts don't fit the narrative.

The point is that having a mentally ill person like Trump as president gives other mentally sick individuals the idea that it is perfectly okay to say and act just as the president is performing. They think that if it is okay for Trump to publicly act like an entitled white asshole, then it is equally okay for them to act the same way.

[John V]

Yes, I understand the point. I'm saying that it hasn't been supported. Numerous incidents have turned out to be hoaxes. The Portland murderer has prior convictions on violent charges and there's no indication he thought he'd just be allowed to go free from this one because Trump's president. The left wants this narrative to be true, but so far it just isn't.

[Crunchy]

Yes, I understand the point. I'm saying that it hasn't been supported. Numerous incidents have turned out to be hoaxes. The Portland murderer has prior convictions on violent charges and there's no indication he thought he'd just be allowed to go free from this one because Trump's president. The left wants this narrative to be true, but so far it just isn't.

The stats indicate that hate crimes are up and it's probably because of Trump. Attribution to any single incident like this is impossible however, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the leader sets a tone like Trump has, it will be attractive to those already inclined towards hatred, especially those who have already shown such a tendency.

[John V]

The stats indicate that hate crimes are up and it's probably because of Trump.

Can you link to that?

[Shell B]

I agree that's probably CM's desired narrative, but this guy was convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery a long time ago. He was dangerous well before Trump. The facts don't fit the narrative.

The point is that having a mentally ill person like Trump as president gives other mentally sick individuals the idea that it is perfectly okay to say and act just as the president is performing.  They think that if it is okay for Trump to publicly act like an entitled white asshole, then it is equally okay for them to act the same way.

Oi, asshole =/= mentally ill.

[Amarok]

Ahh Beta Males sad list of wiggling out

First he tried blaming his links to the Dems but it's clear he had strong Trump ties "saying he would join Trumps SS" Then he goes to a pro Trump racist rally

Now he's trying the "but he was violent before he supported Trump " This is not an excuse he clearly supports Trump and was emboldened by Trumps bigoted message and Trumps actions. And no as Shelly said being and asshole is not a mental illness.

This is almost as lame as someone saying the brown shirts were anti sematic before Hitler therefore Hitler can't be blamed . Or the demagogues In Rwanda didn't cause the inter tribal violence therefore there totally innocent . Or the leaders of the Serbian nationalism  didn't make Serbians hate minorities . Therefore they get a pass. Nope in each case there position and words emboldened said degenerates .

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https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

And yup hate crimes are up

Now watch Beta scream those facts are biased  etc etc etc

Fake News

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https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

And yup hate crimes are up

Now watch Beta scream those facts are biased  etc etc etc

Fake News