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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 8:32 am
(September 28, 2017 at 7:58 am)Joods Wrote: (September 27, 2017 at 6:10 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Tebow kneels before a football game and the right loses their fucking minds if anyone mocks him for it.
Players across the NFL kneel before a football game and the right loses their fucking minds mocking them for it.
QFT
The difference is, sure I mock Fleebow for kneeling thinking a fictional sky wizard cares more about a well off athlete. I won't deny that. But the difference is, you won't here me demand he not do it. I simply think his logic is fucked up.
But that is the same with any well off person, actor, musician, comedian, business person, black or white. On a planet full of 50 million deaths worldwide on average per year, from famine, disease, in childhood, accident or natural disaster or war. For Fleebow and even black athletes to point to a magic puppeteer is absurd.
I could care less if you are thanking Allah or Yahweh or Vishnu or Buddha for your good fortune. It simply makes no sense.
Having said that, I have seen the right bitch a fit when Muslim NFL players have thanked Allah.
Fleebow can pretend all he wants along with Cam Newton that a sky hero is helping them, and no, I won't advocate the league demand they stop all the pointing to the sky after a score, or doing the sign of the cross after making a touchdown. I only find the logic absurd, not their rights.
But, if fans of Fleebow are going to bitch about blacks protesting, the hypocrisy is that they ignore that Brady supports their right to protest.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 9:27 am
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Quote:In an interview with the Tennessean, NFL tight end Delanie Walker took a shot at football fans who are willfully misinterpreting protests during the national anthem, saying they don’t need to come to the games if they can’t deal with it.
“First off, I’m going to say this: We’re not disrespecting the military, the men and women that serve in the Army. That’s not what it’s all about,” Walker explained. “If you look at most of the guys in here – I’ve been in the USO. I support the troops. This is not about that. It’s about equal rights, and that’s all everyone is trying to show, is that we all care about each other.”
Walker then took fans who are threatening to boycott to task, saying, “OK, bye.”
“The fans that don’t want to come to the game? I mean, OK. Bye,” he stated. “I mean, if you feel that’s something, we’re disrespecting you, don’t come to the game. You don’t have to. No one’s telling you to come to the game. It’s your freedom of choice to do that.”
Teammate Logan Ryan backed Walker up, saying, “That’s their choice.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/bye-nfl...al-rights/
This is precisely how we should always be responding to irrational whiners who always want things their way because they've been brainwashed into thinking they're always right.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 9:39 am
(September 28, 2017 at 9:27 am)Lutrinae Wrote: Quote:In an interview with the Tennessean, NFL tight end Delanie Walker took a shot at football fans who are willfully misinterpreting protests during the national anthem, saying they don’t need to come to the games if they can’t deal with it.
“First off, I’m going to say this: We’re not disrespecting the military, the men and women that serve in the Army. That’s not what it’s all about,” Walker explained. “If you look at most of the guys in here – I’ve been in the USO. I support the troops. This is not about that. It’s about equal rights, and that’s all everyone is trying to show, is that we all care about each other.”
Walker then took fans who are threatening to boycott to task, saying, “OK, bye.”
“The fans that don’t want to come to the game? I mean, OK. Bye,” he stated. “I mean, if you feel that’s something, we’re disrespecting you, don’t come to the game. You don’t have to. No one’s telling you to come to the game. It’s your freedom of choice to do that.”
Teammate Logan Ryan backed Walker up, saying, “That’s their choice.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/bye-nfl...al-rights/
This is precisely how we should always be responding to irrational whiners who always want things their way because they've been brainwashed into thinking they're always right.
No shit, I'm not going to boycott the NFL because some players think a magic sky hero is helping them. But, if you want a lagit reason to protest the NFL, it would be their decades of owners constantly threatening cities that they will leave if the tax payers don't buy them new stadiums. I find it very hard to believe that 32 billionaires cant pool their own profits to pay for their own digs.
Petty to me is demanding forced ritual when the protest isn't even about hating America. But, in the context of both White owners, and white and black players all united in understanding that black players are simply pointing out social inequality I am 100% with them.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 10:31 am
Trump is a misogynist, racist, Anglo-saxan, who's white privilege is showing. He's encouraging other people to be racist and is essentially trying to undo much of what the civil rights movement put into place for black people.
He's got no problem with denying aid to PR saying he doesn't want to lift some stupid ban on allowing all ships to enter PR ports so that other countries can donate aid to PR.
He refuses to help our own people because he's an ignorant racist piece of shit pig. His type of leadership isn't leadership. It's the catalyst for what's only going to get worse in this country if he is allowed to continue sitting in office.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Anyone - A.N.Y.O.N.E. who continues to support that racist jack ass, after all he has put minorities who are citizens of this country, through, is just as much of a pig themselves. You aren't patriots of this country and ALL of her citizens and what she truly stands for, if you support oppression, bigotry, hatred, racial division, violence and the vilifying of anyone who isn't a white man. You support T.Rump and shame on you for doing so.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 10:46 am
(September 28, 2017 at 10:31 am)Joods Wrote: Trump is a misogynist, racist, Anglo-saxan, who's white privilege is showing. He's encouraging other people to be racist and is essentially trying to undo much of what the civil rights movement put into place for black people.
He's got no problem with denying aid to PR saying he doesn't want to lift some stupid ban on allowing all ships to enter PR ports so that other countries can donate aid to PR.
He refuses to help our own people because he's an ignorant racist piece of shit pig. His type of leadership isn't leadership. It's the catalyst for what's only going to get worse in this country if he is allowed to continue sitting in office.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Anyone - A.N.Y.O.N.E. who continues to support that racist jack ass, after all he has put minorities who are citizens of this country, through, is just as much of a pig themselves. You aren't patriots of this country and ALL of her citizens and what she truly stands for, if you support oppression, bigotry, hatred, racial division, violence and the vilifying of anyone who isn't a white man. You support T.Rump and shame on you for doing so.
I wouldn't say all his supporters are bigots.
I would say simply saying, "I am not a bigot" is bullshit and is not enough. If those whom support the GOP truly mean it then what you can do is simply shut the fuck up and listen. If all one is going to do is deflect, then you are willfully ignoring the problem and a party to perpetuating it.
The problem is economics, and blacks are still effected more negatively on average by economics and our justice system than whites. MLK did not protest and get murdered for his rightful protest to have America 50 years later to still be having this conversation.
"I am not a bigot" coming from the right, is bullshit lip service. If they mean it, the right thing to do is stop pointing fingers and stop letting your party and the rich use race issues to divide the classes and races.
If "what is your problem" and "I am not a bigot" were the solution and there was no problem, nobody would be protesting. We still have a problem, but only one party and one class is perpetuating it.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 12:00 pm
Jesus isn't fixing shit, assholes.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/megachu...ix-racism/
Quote:Megachurch pastor begs for forgiveness after wife tells NFL protesters to wait for Jesus to fix racism
Quote:The pastor of a South Carolina megachurch issued a video apology on Thursday for his wife’s racist anti-NFL rant on Facebook in which she insisted that the protests “will not fix racism! Duh!!! Only Jesus!”
Can't have the "seed money" drying up, can you?
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 12:11 pm
(September 28, 2017 at 12:00 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Jesus isn't fixing shit, assholes.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/megachu...ix-racism/
Quote:Megachurch pastor begs for forgiveness after wife tells NFL protesters to wait for Jesus to fix racism
Quote:The pastor of a South Carolina megachurch issued a video apology on Thursday for his wife’s racist anti-NFL rant on Facebook in which she insisted that the protests “will not fix racism! Duh!!! Only Jesus!”
Can't have the "seed money" drying up, can you?
"Wait for Jesus?"
Um yea, after 2,000 years where blacks have lived most of that time in oppression and still have to fear death during encounters with police.
I think Jesus had his chance.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 12:25 pm
As I recall, 'Freedom of the Press' devolves to whomever happens to own a particular press. IOWs, if you are working for a newspaper and don't like its editorial slant your recourse isn't a free 1/2 page ad to run your opposing views to the owners, instead, it is to quit and start your own newspaper. (and compete in the marketplace)
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 12:59 pm
(September 28, 2017 at 12:25 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: As I recall, 'Freedom of the Press' devolves to whomever happens to own a particular press. IOWs, if you are working for a newspaper and don't like its editorial slant your recourse isn't a free 1/2 page ad to run your opposing views to the owners, instead, it is to quit and start your own newspaper. (and compete in the marketplace)
While I do find 45s attacks on media calling all news fake vile and dangerous rhetoric, we do have cable media that blurs the difference between pundits and neutral journalism. There still are neutral objective reporters, it is just with mass competition corporate media has far too much of a tendency to blur the lines between opinion and reporting.
But between the left and the right in media, on average the objective journalists on the left do a far better job at fact checking. And while comedy shows like The Daily Show and Full Frontal are just that, they also still do a better job at fact checking than Farts News.
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RE: 45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...
September 28, 2017 at 5:49 pm
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Quote:We still have a problem, but only one party and one class is perpetuating it.
lol good one. If you think what the Dems are doing is enough, the problem will never get fixed (and let's not forget that Colin Kaepernick started out his protest by specifically slamming Hillary). Bill Clinton signed legislation that led to the mass incarceration of blacks. Real black leaders like Michael Eric Dyson, Cornell West and Tavis Smiley shit on Obama by calling him a Republican in blackface who didn't want to help the black community and who's 8 years in office only put blacks in a worse place than before, but I guess Barack still has the admiration of... rappers/ singers like Jay Z and Beyonce, and clowns like Al Sharpton.
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