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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
You appear to be failing at your own life philosophy, then.  Hard.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 26, 2018 at 12:11 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 11:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote:   You wouldnt be the first person who misunderstood or was ignorant of the requirements of their own faith.  Catholics have been doing it for centuries.

Even when they know their donations are going to pay off pedophile class action lawsuits and the church won't do anything to prevent future molestations, they still KNOWINGLY pay up.

Billions of tax dollars go to paying off class action lawsuits. It is ironic that the victims of crimes have to support the criminals that committed the crimes against them.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 29, 2018 at 6:38 pm)Succubus Wrote: https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2013/0...uire-faith

The NPR article is especially enlightening (Which mean you should skip it if you wish to retain a closed mind.)

I've no idea who this Cullen Buie is...

Quote:If tomorrow the laws of physics were suddenly different than they ever were before, science would be in pretty deep water.

But he's an idiotic cunt.

I found the entire op-ed meandering and pointless. Yeah, the word 'faith' has a different meaning in different contexts. Congratulations on understanding the English language, I guess. But, whatever faith may be required by those performing science, it's wholly different and separate from religious faith. So, claims that "science requires faith, too!" completely miss the point. Different contexts, different kinds of faith.

I have 'faith' in science because I understand the process. I've engaged in the process myself in school (writing lab reports sucks). I had tangible results. Moreover, my very existence is proof that science, as an endeavor, works. Everything from biology (the 45 surgical procedures I've had to date), to biochemistry (my diabetes and kidney stone medicines), to physics, engineering, and computer science (my electric wheelchair). The proof is real and evident to all. Anyone can see or touch it. And knowing how science works, and having lived my entire life reaping the tangible benefits of science, gives me 'faith' in it.

It's completely different than religious faith which, at best, may manifest psychological changes in an individual.

EDIT: The Paul Davies op-ed was just as dumb, albeit in a different way. It was shocking to see so many wrong assumptions and misunderstandings put to paper by a scientist. No one is ignoring the 'why' of the universe. Indeed, the most interesting science pokes and prods at the structure of the universe in order to have a better way to ask those questions (example: recent experiments revolving around the Fine Structure Constant). I'd offer a better refutation, but his contemporaries beat me to the punch: https://www.edge.org/discourse/science_faith.html
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Goblins.

A good Christian should believe in goblins.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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