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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
February 22, 2019 at 5:17 am
(February 22, 2019 at 2:04 am)PRJA93 Wrote: (February 22, 2019 at 12:40 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well, for starters, Ann Coulter is not Fox News and what does it mean "pointing finger"? People will be doing bad stuff but that doesn't mean that we should blame them for other people exploiting it and not behaving rationally. Both sides should be criticized.
Let's say when Ted Bundy was arrested Person A wrote: "All white men are evil." And then Person B said: "It is all Bundy's fault that Person A concluded this."
And then Person C looks through the window and sees some white man and calls the cops on him and Person B blames it on Bundy for "starting all of this." It's just weird to me this is the part of the conversation you're choosing to focus on. Jussie Smollett did something completely reprehensible and all you want to talk about is how the right-wing media is interpreting it, rather than Jussie's actions themselves. It seems you're very dismissive of what Smollett did and would rather take the opportunity to bash the right-wing media than talk about Smollett himself. Weird. Fake is mostly upset that Smollett was caught.
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
February 22, 2019 at 7:30 am
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2019 at 9:11 am by Fake Messiah.)
(February 22, 2019 at 2:04 am)PRJA93 Wrote: (February 22, 2019 at 12:40 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well, for starters, Ann Coulter is not Fox News and what does it mean "pointing finger"? People will be doing bad stuff but that doesn't mean that we should blame them for other people exploiting it and not behaving rationally. Both sides should be criticized.
Let's say when Ted Bundy was arrested Person A wrote: "All white men are evil." And then Person B said: "It is all Bundy's fault that Person A concluded this."
And then Person C looks through the window and sees some white man and calls the cops on him and Person B blames it on Bundy for "starting all of this." It's just weird to me this is the part of the conversation you're choosing to focus on. Jussie Smollett did something completely reprehensible and all you want to talk about is how the right-wing media is interpreting it, rather than Jussie's actions themselves. It seems you're very dismissive of what Smollett did and would rather take the opportunity to bash the right-wing media than talk about Smollett himself. Weird.
I did say that Jussie Smollett did wrong but I also said that it is not entirely his fault for what Ann Coulter is shitting out, unlike you who is blaming Smollett for what Ann Coulter is saying.
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
February 22, 2019 at 12:39 pm
(February 22, 2019 at 5:17 am)Yonadav Wrote: (February 22, 2019 at 2:04 am)PRJA93 Wrote: It's just weird to me this is the part of the conversation you're choosing to focus on. Jussie Smollett did something completely reprehensible and all you want to talk about is how the right-wing media is interpreting it, rather than Jussie's actions themselves. It seems you're very dismissive of what Smollett did and would rather take the opportunity to bash the right-wing media than talk about Smollett himself. Weird. Fake is mostly upset that Smollett was caught.
That's honestly what it seems like.
(February 22, 2019 at 7:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (February 22, 2019 at 2:04 am)PRJA93 Wrote: It's just weird to me this is the part of the conversation you're choosing to focus on. Jussie Smollett did something completely reprehensible and all you want to talk about is how the right-wing media is interpreting it, rather than Jussie's actions themselves. It seems you're very dismissive of what Smollett did and would rather take the opportunity to bash the right-wing media than talk about Smollett himself. Weird.
I did say that Jussie Smollett did wrong but I also said that it is not entirely his fault for what Ann Coulter is shitting out, unlike you who is blaming Smollett for what Ann Coulter is saying.
Dude, don't be disingenuous; I never said I blame Smollett for what Coulter is saying. You're acting like a child.
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
March 1, 2019 at 10:39 pm
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...re/583099/
An interesting take on the Smollett case by Professor John McWhorter of Columbia University.
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
March 10, 2019 at 8:32 am
https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollett-...y/5177586/
Quote:A Cook County grand jury has returned a 16-count indictment against "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett.
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The grand jury returned two separate sets of charges, one of each lie Smollett allegedly told. The first set are related to what Smollett told officers about the alleged attack, including that the attackers called him racial and homophobic slurs, struck him with their hands, put a noose around his neck, and poured some sort of chemical substance on him.
The second set of charges are related to the second interview Smollett had with police about the alleged attack later that day, saying the men attacked him from behind and he fell to the ground, at which point the men continued kicking him. Smollett also told police on this occasion that one of his attackers was white.
The two sets of charges correspond to two sets of police officers Smollett allegedly lied to.
The article also says Smollett will likely enter a plea deal and will potentially not see any jail time, which is a shame.
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
March 10, 2019 at 10:29 pm
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Why? You can run the torturers lobby, screw millions of people over (up to and including their deaths) ,engage in a little light treason, intimidate witnesses, lie to the fbi, and fuck john q taxpayer for decades.... and have your life referred to as "otherwise blameless" as a federal judge slaps you on the wrist..relunctantly.
Don't get me wrong..I can think of reasons why the smollet case is a shame. It's a shame that we live in a country where it might seem like the best chance you have at a raise is to be the victim of a hatecrime.
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
March 11, 2019 at 8:48 am
Hitler, aside from killing six million Jews, lived an otherwise blameless life. He was liked by children and dogs, for Christ's sake!
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
March 11, 2019 at 7:28 pm
(March 10, 2019 at 10:29 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Why? You can run the torturers lobby, screw millions of people over (up to and including their deaths) ,engage in a little light treason, intimidate witnesses, lie to the fbi, and fuck john q taxpayer for decades.... and have your life referred to as "otherwise blameless" as a federal judge slaps you on the wrist..relunctantly.
Don't get me wrong..I can think of reasons why the smollet case is a shame. It's a shame that we live in a country where it might seem like the best chance you have at a raise is to be the victim of a hatecrime.
So your argument is that because other people get away with shit, Smollett shouldn't be punished harshly?
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
March 11, 2019 at 7:43 pm
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Lastest development in Smollett case
March 11, 2019 at 8:25 pm
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