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RE: Damned atheists
March 14, 2019 at 10:42 am
(March 14, 2019 at 10:38 am)Catharsis Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 9:16 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: That would have been much more impressive with an example to give the sarcasm more weight.
Since God doesn't exist, aren't we all atheists with some somewhat delusional? : Obviously there are people who believe in gods despite the fact that they don't exist...so, no.
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RE: Damned atheists
March 14, 2019 at 10:44 am
(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 10:38 am)Catharsis Wrote: Since God doesn't exist, aren't we all atheists with some somewhat delusional? : Obviously there are people who believe in gods despite the fact that they don't exist...so, no.
Aren't they just atheists who believe in gods despite the fact that they don't exist?
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RE: Damned atheists
March 14, 2019 at 10:46 am
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Nope. "Atheists who believe in gods" is an oxymoron.
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RE: Damned atheists
March 14, 2019 at 10:54 am
(March 14, 2019 at 10:46 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nope. "Atheists who believe in gods" is an oxymoron.
Do you consider people who believe in gods still human? That's all I want to know really.
And how you treat humans.
Would you kill a human?
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RE: Damned atheists
March 14, 2019 at 11:07 am
(March 14, 2019 at 10:54 am)Catharsis Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 10:46 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nope. "Atheists who believe in gods" is an oxymoron.
Do you consider people who believe in gods still human? That's all I want to know really. OFC, lol?
Quote:And how you treat humans.
Pretty well.
Quote:Would you kill a human?
Yeah.
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RE: Damned atheists
March 14, 2019 at 3:27 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2019 at 3:28 pm by Catharsis.)
(March 14, 2019 at 11:07 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 10:54 am)Catharsis Wrote: Do you consider people who believe in gods still human? That's all I want to know really. OFC, lol?
Quote:And how you treat humans.
Pretty well.
Quote:Would you kill a human?
Yeah.
Ok
And in case you need it; sorry.
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RE: Damned atheists
March 15, 2019 at 9:07 am
(March 14, 2019 at 10:38 am)Catharsis Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 9:16 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: That would have been much more impressive with an example to give the sarcasm more weight.
Love your neighbour.
The parable of the Good Samaritan is the most ethically wise lesson in the NT, IMHO.
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RE: Damned atheists
March 15, 2019 at 9:20 am
We need Jesus to enlighten us about the morality of shitting on people who are different than us?
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March 15, 2019 at 1:48 pm
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Chances are, some modern interpretation of that story is what you have in mind when you consider it's value MA.
The thrust, before being sanitized, is that those subhuman mongrels, the samaritans, are better than the christian's competition in the market of theological authority and faithful authenticity.
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RE: Damned atheists
March 15, 2019 at 4:38 pm
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(March 15, 2019 at 9:20 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: We need Jesus to enlighten us about the morality of shitting on people who are different than us?
Is that supposed to follow from the opinion I stated?
(March 15, 2019 at 1:48 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Chances are, some modern interpretation of that story is what you have in mind when you consider it's value MA.
The thrust, before being sanitized, is that those subhuman mongrels, the samaritans, are better than the christian's competition in the market of theological authority and faithful authenticity.
Or the thrust, before being soiled (  ), is that your neighbor is whoever needs you and you ought to treat those who need help with compassion and mercy, and someone in a social group you disapprove of is morally superior and more deserving of eternal life than a person in a more acceptable social group if they behave this way and the 'more acceptable' person does not. The parable was literally in response to the question from a lawyer, after citing the law to love your neighbor as yourself, 'who is my neighbor?' In the parable, the person who was treating their neighbor as if they loved him was the Samaritan, and Jesus told the lawyer to do the same, be like the person who had mercy on the guy brutalized by robbers not like the supposedly sanctified people who walked by. There is also a strong implication that the Samaritan deserved eternal life more than the Jews who did not show compassion, since the original question concerned what is required for eternal life.
That's the meaning I got from reading the passage in the KJV and Living Bible, without being told how to interpret it. I could be reading it wrong, but out of all the things in the Bible that shook my faith, this wasn't one of them.
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