Last Non-winter

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

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Well..... if you Yanks just want to swear at each other....

Knock your selve's out.

[The Grand Nudger]

I really don't understand your reaction at all. The answer to where a recycled fuel project is going to get it's energy is the local grid.

While it's possible for a project to create a larger amount of useful energy than it consumes - even assuming that a specific project doesn't...it's a simple issue of whether or not we want to use energy to reduce pollution. This is not a novel concept, nor is it novel to profit or at least offset the cost with a marketable product.

[onlinebiker]

At work.

And where is all this mythical energy going to come from?

Well.... as I already pointed out, the 'Sun'.

Nice solution.

Are you providing the 93 million mile long extension cord needed?

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I really don't understand your reaction at all.  The answer to where a recycled fuel project is going to get it's energy is the local grid.  

While it's possible for a project to create a larger amount of useful energy than it consumes -  even assuming that a specific project doesn't...it's a simple issue of whether or not we want to use energy to reduce pollution.  This is not a novel concept, nor is it novel to profit or at least offset the cost with a marketable product.

Holy fuck - you sound just like the Christers who say they know it's true because it's in the bible and that proves it......



For this concept to work - you need virtually unlimited amounts of non-polluting sources of power WHICH DO NOT EXIST.

[Succubus#2]

I really don't understand your reaction at all.  The answer to where a recycled fuel project is going to get it's energy is the local grid.  

While it's possible for a project to create a larger amount of useful energy than it consumes -  even assuming that a specific project doesn't...it's a simple issue of whether or not we want to use energy to reduce pollution.  This is not a novel concept, nor is it novel to profit or at least offset the cost with a marketable product.

Nudge, your calender is two days behind. Because I'm pretty sure you are well familiar with this:

• 1. You Can’t Win: you can’t get more energy out of the system than you put into it.
  
• 2. You Can’t Break Even: any transfer of energy will result in some waste of energy unless a temperature of absolute zero can be achieved.
  
• 3. You Can’t Get Out of the Game: you cannot achieve absolute zero.
  

My highlight.

[The Grand Nudger]

I sometimes wonder whether people imagine that something about energy production is just impossible..despite the existence of energy production.

When it comes to fossil fuels, either as a primary fuel or a recycled fuel..we're not the ones "putting the energy in". It's extraction.

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I really don't understand your reaction at all.  The answer to where a recycled fuel project is going to get it's energy is the local grid.  

While it's possible for a project to create a larger amount of useful energy than it consumes -  even assuming that a specific project doesn't...it's a simple issue of whether or not we want to use energy to reduce pollution.  This is not a novel concept, nor is it novel to profit or at least offset the cost with a marketable product.

Holy fuck - you sound just like the Christers who say they know it's true because it's in the bible and that proves it......



For this concept to work - you need virtually unlimited amounts of non-polluting sources of power WHICH DO NOT EXIST.

Why, why do you think that?

For "this" to work, it needs only remove carbon from the atmosphere while providing a useful product that can be used for fuel.  Why would we need unlimited amounts...or even -any- non polluting sources of power? If any energy, any energy whatsoever...can be captured while reducing the amount of pollution in the environment..worst case scenario, it offsets the cost of remediation.

How can this be hard to understand?

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.


Well.... as I already pointed out, the 'Sun'.

Nice solution.

Are you providing the 93 million mile long extension cord needed?

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 Hey!? The 70's called! They want their meme/trope back!

SO... did you miss the whole "Turn the CO2 into fuel via electrical power" I also posted?

Once we're level with this idea then we'll walk on, 'Kay?



Not at work.

[Succubus#2]

I sometimes wonder whether people imagine that something about energy production is just impossible..despite the existence of energy production. 

While it's possible for a project to create a larger amount of useful energy than it consumes

More out than in? That's not energy production that's perpetual motion.

[The Grand Nudger]

If that were true, then our entire civilization is running on perpetual motion right now.

Yes, it's possible for human beings to extract more energy out of something than the energy we put in - as every single extracted barrel of oil handily shows.

[onlinebiker]

I sometimes wonder whether people imagine that something about energy production is just impossible..despite the existence of energy production. 

While it's possible for a project to create a larger amount of useful energy than it consumes

More out than in? That's not energy production that's perpetual motion.

Gee - that's a negatve thought... Don't you know ANYTHING is possible if you just think happy thoughts?

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[Aegon]

At work.


Well.... as I already pointed out, the 'Sun'.

Nice solution.

Are you providing the 93 million mile long extension cord needed?

Lol I'm dying imagining us setting up an extension cord all the way to the Sun and just plugging it in.