Dawkins loses humanist title

[vulcanlogician]

I don't know what to tell you, man. I'm not trying to misrepresent what you're saying. But any time I offer a counterpoint, you accuse me of misrepresenting you. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you to begin with. Or maybe you aren't being logical here.

PS: I haven't "formed a judgment of you" btw. I like you. Where are you getting this shit from?

[The Grand Nudger]

Empirically and objectively speaking, you don't like my answers, you may not agree with my answers.....but a person only needs to read the posts to figure out that those answers do exist, and have been repeated and rephrased for your convenience and understanding.

[Reforged]

I don't know what to tell you, man. I'm not trying to misrepresent what you're saying. But any time I offer a counterpoint, you accuse me of misrepresenting you. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you to begin with. Or maybe you aren't being logical here.

Alright, let me try it from a different angle.
Lets say that there isn't a single man anywhere in the world who is low enough to dress up to gain access to victims. That noone anywhere in the world would dream of tarnishing the good name of transgender people by pretending they are one to gain access to victims. Lets pretend that probability is 0%, noone would ever do that in the history of the world. Ever.

Fine. That doesn't matter. That fears still there for alot of people. You're not going to talk it away. They want to know what prevents that.
They won't say yes to a transgender bathroom until it happens.
Alright, what do you offer them in terms of a contingency? What do you give them to make them feel safe enough to say "yes"?

Thats the question I've been asking, thats the question the other guy has been shamelessly avoiding.

[The Architect Of Fate]

A bunch of paranoid bigots should not decide what trans people should be allowed to do. And molestation would still be a crime regardless of who commits it. So fuck their feels.

[The Grand Nudger]

Can you see how a deference to bigoted fears does not conform to any humanist values? If you can, then you can probably also see how a deference to biological sex fails in the same way - ideologically speaking, ofc.

[Reforged]

A bunch of paranoid bigots should not decide what trans people should be allowed to do. And molestation would still be a crime regardless of who commits it. So fuck their feels.

Congratulations. You just made yourself feel better and lost the transgenders the bathroom.
Was it worth it? No. It wasn't. Its not about you, use your brain.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Can you see how a deference to bigoted fears does not conform to any humanist values?

Yup irrational fear is the mind-killer. No one needs to prove their gender identity any more than they need to prove countless other aspects of themselves. If people commit crimes in bathrooms they should be dealt with.

[Reforged]

Can you see how a deference to bigoted fears does not conform to any humanist values?

Can you see how your rhetoric means nothing and gets nothing done? What is the answer to the problem?
Do you even really care? If not; shut the fuck up about it. If you do; answer the question.
And then realize what I'm trying to teach you is that the questions worth asking that lead to results are *never* popular you complete and utter moron.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Congratulations. You just made yourself feel better and lost the transgenders the bathroom.

Nope a completely rational case and said fuck you to the irrational.

Was it worth it? No. It wasn't. Its not about you, use your brain.

Yes, it is about me, And my refusal to kowtow to the irrational idiots.

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Can you see how your rhetoric means nothing and gets nothing done? What is the answer to the problem?
Do you even really care? If not; shut the fuck up about it. If you do; answer the question.
And then realize what I'm trying to teach you is that the questions worth asking that lead to results are *never* popular you complete and utter moron.

He's answered your worthless question.

[Reforged]

Congratulations. You just made yourself feel better and lost the transgenders the bathroom.

Nope a completely rational case and said fuck you to the irrational.

Was it worth it? No. It wasn't. Its not about you, use your brain.

Yes, it is about me, And my refusal to kowtow to the irrational idiots.

Fantastic, you just admitted you don't give a fuck about the plight of transgender people when compared to your ego and have entirely conceded any claim to superior morality.
Bye.