Righteousness is the perfect Standard of God
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Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
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RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
August 19, 2012 at 2:21 pm
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2012 at 2:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Ten blueberries begins purpose in standard.
(August 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm)Drich Wrote:(August 19, 2012 at 1:28 pm)Rhythm Wrote: My own authority, my own society, where all claims of justice originate. There is no other authority, there are no other standards. Your criticism is empty. Correction, because "we" say so. Unless you'd like to implement scapegoating into U.S. law. My personal beliefs have jack shit to do with our concept of justice. I wasn't there when the laws were written, and I don't always agree. In this case I do, and I bet you do as well.....-until- your god is invoked. Special considerations for our very "special" friends, amiright?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 Drich Wrote:Righteousness is the perfect Standard of God Doesn't really answer my question though, does it?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
 RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
August 19, 2012 at 11:28 pm
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2012 at 11:29 pm by Drich.)
(August 19, 2012 at 2:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Ten blueberries begins purpose in standard. So..."We" usurp the Authority of God? do me a favor and leave me out of your 'we' collective, and Let me know how 'your people' verses God works out. (August 19, 2012 at 2:25 pm)Faith No More Wrote:Drich Wrote:Righteousness is the perfect Standard of God Actually it does completely. If you are still confused then may i suggest rephrasing the question, for the question you asked has been answered. RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
August 19, 2012 at 11:43 pm
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2012 at 11:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Works just fine, unless you disagree. Look, amigo, you want to make that scapegoating justice argument be my guest, but until you do I'm assuming you agree with me and are simply unable to deal with the dissonance that this causes.
No one has to usurp anything from fairies Drich. They never had anything for us to usurp in the first place.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 Quote:Righteousness is the perfect Standard of God Time to remind you once again, Drippy, that you have yet to provide evidence that your 'god' is anything more than a figment of your imagination. Drich Wrote:Actually it does completely. If you are still confused then may i suggest rephrasing the question, for the question you asked has been answered. Well, excuse me. I guess I don't speak crazy idiot.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
 (August 19, 2012 at 11:41 am)Drich Wrote: Yes Jesus HAD to die. Why? Because we are told God established the standard that any and all sin deserves Death. Righteousness demands that someone die for the sins committed against God. Jesus was that death for those who accept the offering made on their behalf. It is still not clear to me why the death of anything compensates or counteracts any crimes/sins. Wrongs/sins committed by A against B. C is killed thus compensating for the sins/wrong committed against B. How? I don't see the link. Regards Grimesy
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon
Mysterious Ways, and such.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
August 20, 2012 at 9:20 am
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2012 at 9:22 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It's magic. It's common. It's fucking idiotic, and on top of it all, I don't think for one minute that even Drich agrees with the principle. I would absolutely loathe to be incorrect about this, but I have confidence in Drich on this count.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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